Official No Surrender 2012 Live Discussion Thread

[Solidus1]

Hardy beat Joe already on the go home show if you missed it. He won by submission which is a rare thing for Hardy. Joe gonna be coming for blood.

I saw. I do feel like Joe is being pushed a lot, so he may win this. It's about time he was a main eventer/champion again.

 

[Stopspot]

Joe in the main event scene is almost always good as long as he has his head in the game.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Joe deserves to win the BFG Series. I'm pulling hard for him

 

[Stopspot]

I am torn since Storm winning it would be the perfect come uppance for the shit he went through earlier.

Joe would be a beast as WHC.

Hardy seems to have really picked himself up since last time he was WHC and he is their biggest draw.

Bully is just Bully Fucking Ray and would be amazing.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I can't see Hardy winning it. That would be the only disappointing outcome IMO. I have said all along I'm a fan of his current run though, and he deserves another title run, but I say not until 2013. Let him go an entire year of putting on solid matches and not fucking up before trusting him again.

I have no problem with Storm winning and have expected it from the start.. the only thing that has me split now is how perfectly they've rebuilt Samoa Joe back into this ass kicking machine he used to be. I love it

 

[Lacky]

May watch this..

I'll be watching. So join in the discussion. tunga:

 

[Stopspot]

I can't see Hardy winning it. That would be the only disappointing outcome IMO. I have said all along I'm a fan of his current run though, and he deserves another title run, but I say not until 2013. Let him go an entire year of putting on solid matches and not F**cking up before trusting him again.

I have no problem with Storm winning and have expected it from the start.. the only thing that has me split now is how perfectly they've rebuilt Samoa Joe back into this ass kicking machine he used to be. I love it

Yeah Hardy is also my least favorite pick. Joe was the darkhorse for me since I was unfamiliar with how he used to be when I started watching Impact (he was his sleepy lazy self back then) and I had not gotten into watching old ROH DVD's yet. Joe now is a beast.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Joe has stolen the show on Impact for a solid month now with his matches. He never seems to work the same match; they always feel unique

 

[Stopspot]

He is so athletic and agile for a man of his size, you would not suspect it when looking at him.

 

[Jose Tortilla]

Olla dem Samoan boys in wrasslin bein' athletic! :shock:

 

[Testify]

Was so stupid having that match on the go-home show, typical TNA style.

Hey, but you already saw Ray/Storm 5-6 times, so why are you caring for that either? You saw the Tag Title match on Slammy X and Magnus-BVD in BFGS, why do you care about that too? #FACEPALM Your brilliant logic is brilliant!

Dude, Joe/Hardy was the second-to-last match in the Series, WTF in the world of fucks were you expecting it to happen?

I'm telling you man, I dunno about your sense in WWE section bcuz I don't follow, but here you're a big bad ignorant. Kiss my calves.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Yea I don't see how it is a problem when it was all a part of the BFG series. omg, Storm has even wrestled Bully already too! And we've seen Storm/Joe so who wants to see that final?

LAME

 

[Crayo]

Hey, but you already saw Ray/Storm 5-6 times, so why are you caring for that either? You saw the Tag Title match on Slammy X and Magnus-BVD in BFGS, why do you care about that too? #FACEPALM Your brilliant logic is brilliant!

Dude, Joe/Hardy was the second-to-last match in the Series, WTF in the world of fucks were you expecting it to happen?

I'm telling you man, I dunno about your sense in WWE section bcuz I don't follow, but here you're a big bad ignorant. Kiss my calves.

I understand you're the biggest bias TNA mark out guy here, but I don't understand how you don't see my frustrations at that. Why would I pay for a match I've seen just 3 days before? It's like on RAW the week before WM having Cena/Rock. Just because there COULD be a different result at the PPV, it wouldn't excite me as much.

I do understand however with the BFG series this was going to happen, but it could have happened a lot better. One of my biggest annoyances with TNA is the booking before PPV's. TNA is a much better product overall as it makes up for it in other areas, but the ONE thing I can think of that WWE may do better -- all be it unintentionally -- is make you feel relatively good about watching matches they've been building (poorly) at PPV's. As for the other competitors going off at each other, if it's a while ago and not meaning as much then it doesn't matter at all. Omg Cena fought Punk at MITB in 2011, I shouldn't be interested in Cena/Punk now at NoC. No, it doesn't work like that.

Whether they "up their game" or not now, a big chunk of your excitement will go because you can sort of expect what quality the match will be. I think WWE had Punk/Bryan on RAW, or in some lame tag-team a week before their PPV. Those two wrestled a lot more than their team-mates, so I wasn't relatively shocked at how good the match was at teh PPV. I prefer to be pumped up to FINALLY see the stars feuding in a ring together fighting it out. I knew you wouldn't understand this, and while you#'re considered the biggest TNA mark here I wouldn't put you in the same sentence as the most "knowledgeable". TNA mark or not, this was relatively poor booking. Not a show-ruiner, it's just a damper.

Just to clarify, I'm still incredibly pumped about the ending to BFG as the series has been fantastic. An idea I think I wasn't overly keen on at first, but it's been played more or less perfectly and the end result I'm expecting to be spectacular. Whether who I want to win wins or not, the idea is flawless.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Crayo completely misses the point of the BFG Series. These aren't typical feuds, it's a fucking tournament format.

 

[Crayo]

Learn2read posts. It was inevitable to get repeat matches, but it COULD HAVE been booked better. This match could have happened a month ago with no real serious factors to think about, but it happened 3 days before the semi-final. Pointless. That's what I'm saying.