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I've thought about doing something where, rather than writing out shows, I try to Fantasy Book/Rebook angles for companies whether they are missed opportunities, or terrible angles. This is obviously inspired by a certain cancelled fantasy booker. The closest thing I did was my attempt to book Wrestlemania 39 in advance, but once I had several planned matches of mine already happen IRL... But better, I decided against finishing. When it comes to writing shows, I can do it, although I'd have to change my style to keep it simple. For those who've seen me write matches in e-feds, I've been one to naturally write them out long almost beat for beat because I get drawn into them.
I do think the idea likely would be its own thread and to draw on my Mania "Fantasy booking" I'd maybe create a thread for all of them, with the original post acting as a directory for each where you click the link to go to the exact posts.
Maybe format wise, I'd have the first post to describe the IRL angle, the things I'd keep or its shortcomings, along with any self-imposed restrictions (EX: This person got injured.)Then depending on its length, it'd be one-whatever is needed for each post, for the beats of the storyline. So is this fleshed out? Is it not? Is it something people would be interested in? Would I keep UP with it?! Or am I talking out of my ass?
I do think the idea likely would be its own thread and to draw on my Mania "Fantasy booking" I'd maybe create a thread for all of them, with the original post acting as a directory for each where you click the link to go to the exact posts.
Maybe format wise, I'd have the first post to describe the IRL angle, the things I'd keep or its shortcomings, along with any self-imposed restrictions (EX: This person got injured.)Then depending on its length, it'd be one-whatever is needed for each post, for the beats of the storyline. So is this fleshed out? Is it not? Is it something people would be interested in? Would I keep UP with it?! Or am I talking out of my ass?
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I'd want to read this certainly. There's been a few rebooking gaps in my life missing for a while now. Not just from a certain fake blond wrong'un but from the AMAZING Making Kayfabe podcast ending in 2022
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I spent a shower earlier today thinking about what could happen if Sting had been the third man. Here are my thoughts.
- Bash at the Beach '96. Hogan refuses to do the heel turn. Backup plan. Sting doesn't get to tag in all match, it being mostly Nash/Hall vs. Savage/Luger. Sting finally gets the hot tag... then kicks his own partners in the nuts. The Outsiders pass him a bat and he uses it to break Savage's ankles (this is where Sting gets his interest in bats in this version). His initial promo is very different from Hogan's, saying he's done this because of interlopers like Hogan, like Savage, who know nothing of WCW. And he just met these two guys who came to where the Big Boys Play, but instead of big boys found only decaying old men. So he's left this new WCW behind... and the New World Order has taken over! If this sounds like something you'd cheer... trust me, we'll get to that.
- Sting's new look is a more subdued version of his surfer paint, and all in greyscale. He takes to wearing sunglasses too because that's awesome.
- Hog Wild '96. A double main event of Hogan vs. Giant (Hogan still wins the title, even while remaining a babyface) and Sting/Hall/Nash vs. Some Faces. Post-Hogan/Giant, Giant turns face himself, saying "someone's gotta stop these guys".
- You're thinking we need a fourth man for Fall Brawl '96, right? Well, hear me out: DDP. He's not doing too much anyway, but is growing in popularity. And he's a Bischoff favourite so would be a realistic guy to push. It does mean we lose the real Sting/fake Sting angle but that may be part of the problem with the nWo. Too many jobbers. Anyway, Fall Brawl. Team Hogan (him, Savage, Giant, Luger) vs. nWo. Sting gets the fall by targeting Savage's ankle and making him tap in the Scorpion Deathlock. Notably, Hogan is not involved in the finish. But per the stipulation, Sting gets a shot at Hogan's title. You'll notice the lack of Four Horsemen. That's for later.
- Also we get the introduction of Bischoff as a corrupt authority, Trillionaire Ted as the financier (which should lead to some fun clashes with Hogan, call back to '88 because it's what WCW did best) and Syxx, even though there's seven members. Syxx wins the CW strap in short order.
- DDP wins the US Title off Ric Flair. No idea how it happens, but hopefully it puts Flair on a path that he doesn't hurt his shoulder and have to miss Starrcade '96. Eddie Guerrero (with whom DDP was feuding at the time before he joined the nWo) becomes a babyface and a Horsemen associate. Associate because there's already four, but he's in the tag matches so Mongo doesn't have to wrestle.
- Halloween Havoc '96. The US and CW champs defend, Nash/Hall take the tag straps, and in the main event... Hogan/Sting. Hogan would try to play politics, but would ultimately have a lot less leverage given that he isn't involved with the hottest act in the company (I'd imagine nWo merch far outsells the red and yellow stuff). So he can't get out of this loss. He tries to bury Sting throughout, sure, but the result doesn't change. This is the moment where they spray paint nWo on the belt.
- World War 3 '96. Hear me out... Ric Flair wins. This means the Horsemen and nWo are clashing. Sting is trading on an idealised version of what he thinks WCW once was, while Ric and the Horsemen are representative of the true heart of WCW. This leads to Starrcade '96, that classic Sting/Flair matchup, but with the roles reversed, with Flair as the babyface. Sure would be better than Hogan/Piper wouldn't it
- After that it's all fuzzy but I have some ideas of matches that could happen in future. Sting/Luger - they've got historyl Sting/Savage would just be a really good match, playing on him being the guy that Sting brutalised to solidify the heel turn. Run that for Slamboree. Sting vs. Giant for a B pape, maybe Uncensored so they can do a plunder match and hide Giant's green-ness.
- Also you don't get new people joining the nWo every week, that's stupid. Maybe like... three in the months between Starrcade '96 and GAB '97.
- Gradually it's the intended reaction that yes, the nWo are cool, and the babyfaces are lame. They're the trappings of the past, but the nWo is the present. And that's why we re-introduce Hogan. He's doing his thing, let him face Piper on the undercard I guess. Hogan gets a pin over Sting at GAB '97 in some sort of tag match and I'm thinking this doesn't go over well with the crowd. His tactics are becoming somehow even dirtier than usual babyface Hogan, and he seems more paranoid. Leading to...
- Bash at the Beach '97. Hogan vs. Sting 2. In a shocking turn of events... Hogan wins, with the assistance of Eric Bischoff! It's a double turn! Now Hogan really is a heel! They reveal on the next Nitro that it was all a business deal. Hogan wants the gold again, and Bisch is starting to see these guys as a real threat to his authority. Hogan is now going by Hollywood Hogan and starts to form his own faction, "Team Hollywood" to counter the nWo. Shit I just booked myself back into face Sting beating heel Hogan at Starrcade '97 just like real life, didn't I. Fuck
- By the way, both sides try to court a certain rookie sensation, one who's winning matches on the trot recently. He refuses them both. He answers to no one. And when he's ready for the title... it won't matter who's next.
I know it sucks and is inaccurate okay, this was just the product of a shower
- Bash at the Beach '96. Hogan refuses to do the heel turn. Backup plan. Sting doesn't get to tag in all match, it being mostly Nash/Hall vs. Savage/Luger. Sting finally gets the hot tag... then kicks his own partners in the nuts. The Outsiders pass him a bat and he uses it to break Savage's ankles (this is where Sting gets his interest in bats in this version). His initial promo is very different from Hogan's, saying he's done this because of interlopers like Hogan, like Savage, who know nothing of WCW. And he just met these two guys who came to where the Big Boys Play, but instead of big boys found only decaying old men. So he's left this new WCW behind... and the New World Order has taken over! If this sounds like something you'd cheer... trust me, we'll get to that.
- Sting's new look is a more subdued version of his surfer paint, and all in greyscale. He takes to wearing sunglasses too because that's awesome.
- Hog Wild '96. A double main event of Hogan vs. Giant (Hogan still wins the title, even while remaining a babyface) and Sting/Hall/Nash vs. Some Faces. Post-Hogan/Giant, Giant turns face himself, saying "someone's gotta stop these guys".
- You're thinking we need a fourth man for Fall Brawl '96, right? Well, hear me out: DDP. He's not doing too much anyway, but is growing in popularity. And he's a Bischoff favourite so would be a realistic guy to push. It does mean we lose the real Sting/fake Sting angle but that may be part of the problem with the nWo. Too many jobbers. Anyway, Fall Brawl. Team Hogan (him, Savage, Giant, Luger) vs. nWo. Sting gets the fall by targeting Savage's ankle and making him tap in the Scorpion Deathlock. Notably, Hogan is not involved in the finish. But per the stipulation, Sting gets a shot at Hogan's title. You'll notice the lack of Four Horsemen. That's for later.
- Also we get the introduction of Bischoff as a corrupt authority, Trillionaire Ted as the financier (which should lead to some fun clashes with Hogan, call back to '88 because it's what WCW did best) and Syxx, even though there's seven members. Syxx wins the CW strap in short order.
- DDP wins the US Title off Ric Flair. No idea how it happens, but hopefully it puts Flair on a path that he doesn't hurt his shoulder and have to miss Starrcade '96. Eddie Guerrero (with whom DDP was feuding at the time before he joined the nWo) becomes a babyface and a Horsemen associate. Associate because there's already four, but he's in the tag matches so Mongo doesn't have to wrestle.
- Halloween Havoc '96. The US and CW champs defend, Nash/Hall take the tag straps, and in the main event... Hogan/Sting. Hogan would try to play politics, but would ultimately have a lot less leverage given that he isn't involved with the hottest act in the company (I'd imagine nWo merch far outsells the red and yellow stuff). So he can't get out of this loss. He tries to bury Sting throughout, sure, but the result doesn't change. This is the moment where they spray paint nWo on the belt.
- World War 3 '96. Hear me out... Ric Flair wins. This means the Horsemen and nWo are clashing. Sting is trading on an idealised version of what he thinks WCW once was, while Ric and the Horsemen are representative of the true heart of WCW. This leads to Starrcade '96, that classic Sting/Flair matchup, but with the roles reversed, with Flair as the babyface. Sure would be better than Hogan/Piper wouldn't it
- After that it's all fuzzy but I have some ideas of matches that could happen in future. Sting/Luger - they've got historyl Sting/Savage would just be a really good match, playing on him being the guy that Sting brutalised to solidify the heel turn. Run that for Slamboree. Sting vs. Giant for a B pape, maybe Uncensored so they can do a plunder match and hide Giant's green-ness.
- Also you don't get new people joining the nWo every week, that's stupid. Maybe like... three in the months between Starrcade '96 and GAB '97.
- Gradually it's the intended reaction that yes, the nWo are cool, and the babyfaces are lame. They're the trappings of the past, but the nWo is the present. And that's why we re-introduce Hogan. He's doing his thing, let him face Piper on the undercard I guess. Hogan gets a pin over Sting at GAB '97 in some sort of tag match and I'm thinking this doesn't go over well with the crowd. His tactics are becoming somehow even dirtier than usual babyface Hogan, and he seems more paranoid. Leading to...
- Bash at the Beach '97. Hogan vs. Sting 2. In a shocking turn of events... Hogan wins, with the assistance of Eric Bischoff! It's a double turn! Now Hogan really is a heel! They reveal on the next Nitro that it was all a business deal. Hogan wants the gold again, and Bisch is starting to see these guys as a real threat to his authority. Hogan is now going by Hollywood Hogan and starts to form his own faction, "Team Hollywood" to counter the nWo. Shit I just booked myself back into face Sting beating heel Hogan at Starrcade '97 just like real life, didn't I. Fuck
- By the way, both sides try to court a certain rookie sensation, one who's winning matches on the trot recently. He refuses them both. He answers to no one. And when he's ready for the title... it won't matter who's next.
I know it sucks and is inaccurate okay, this was just the product of a shower
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I think the best thing is that it likely avoids Hogan getting a fat contract with full creative control in 1998, which would really fuck up WCW in the future
If anyone ever wants any help with their BTB or a save they aren’t posting either creatively or just someone to brain storm or bounce ideas off of please feel free to message me. I wish I had the time and energy to play my save more frequently and post it here. So I’d love to help anyone with theirs anyway I can, whether it’s just as simple as giving my opinion on something or you want an “assistant booker” “right hand man” whatever I’m just a message away.
Before I started my save I decided to ask Gemini to structure something like this and this is what I got back and kind of used as a guide for my save. I didn’t use PWF, I used WCW because it’s a modern day mod and had new WCW logos that aren’t used so I went with it. I was really impressed by Geminis help tbh, I made a few minor tweaks to what it provided. I’m only 6 weeks in and I’m enjoying it so far. Using a schedule for the league I can pre book the whole month in advance. I just haven’t had the itch to open PWS and play it even though I still spend time thinking of ideas for it and planning stuff in my notes.
Pro Wrestling Federation (PWF) - Where Wrestling is a Sport
Concept: The PWF presents professional wrestling as a legitimate competitive sport, with a focus on athleticism, teamwork, and strategy.
Structure:
Teams: The roster is divided into permanent teams of 4-6 wrestlers. Teams can be co-ed or single-gender.
Seasons: The PWF operates on a seasonal schedule with playoffs to determine champions. A season could last 6-12 months.
Matches: Matches are structured with a points system based on specific criteria:
Takedowns: Points awarded for successful grappling maneuvers.
High-impact moves: Points for impactful maneuvers with proper execution and safety.
Teamwork: Points for successful tag-team maneuvers and coordinated attacks.
Submissions: Points awarded for successful submission holds that force a tap-out.
Pins: Matches can still end in pinfalls, but award fewer points than submissions.
Standings and Stats: Each team's points are tracked throughout the season. Individual wrestlers accumulate stats like takedowns, successful pins, and assists.
Championships: The team with the most points at the end of the season wins the championship. Additional championships could exist for individual achievements.
Referees: Referees enforce the rules and award points based on the established criteria. Replays and challenges to point deductions can be incorporated.
Presentation:
Commentary: Announcers focus on athleticism, strategy, and team dynamics. Plays can be broken down and analyzed like other sports.
Medical Staff: Emphasize safety and showcase the athletic conditioning of wrestlers.
Minimal Kayfabe: Wrestlers maintain their characters, but storylines focus on team rivalries and championship aspirations rather than over-the-top theatrics.
Benefits:
Appeals to a wider audience: Fans of traditional sports may be drawn to the athleticism and competition.
Emphasis on teamwork: Highlights the collaborative nature of professional wrestling.
Statistical analysis: Provides a deeper dive into the performance of wrestlers and teams.
Fresh approach: Offers a unique twist on the professional wrestling industry.
Challenges:
Balancing entertainment and realism: Striking a balance between exciting action and maintaining a believable points system.
Fan acceptance: Wrestling fans accustomed to traditional storylines might need to adjust their expectations.
Wrestler training: Wrestlers may need additional training in grappling and athletic performance.
The PWF model offers a unique take on professional wrestling. By emphasizing athleticism, teamwork, and competition, it aims to attract a new audience while still delivering exciting in-ring action.
Thoughts? Questions?
Pro Wrestling Federation (PWF) - Where Wrestling is a Sport
Concept: The PWF presents professional wrestling as a legitimate competitive sport, with a focus on athleticism, teamwork, and strategy.
Structure:
Teams: The roster is divided into permanent teams of 4-6 wrestlers. Teams can be co-ed or single-gender.
Seasons: The PWF operates on a seasonal schedule with playoffs to determine champions. A season could last 6-12 months.
Matches: Matches are structured with a points system based on specific criteria:
Takedowns: Points awarded for successful grappling maneuvers.
High-impact moves: Points for impactful maneuvers with proper execution and safety.
Teamwork: Points for successful tag-team maneuvers and coordinated attacks.
Submissions: Points awarded for successful submission holds that force a tap-out.
Pins: Matches can still end in pinfalls, but award fewer points than submissions.
Standings and Stats: Each team's points are tracked throughout the season. Individual wrestlers accumulate stats like takedowns, successful pins, and assists.
Championships: The team with the most points at the end of the season wins the championship. Additional championships could exist for individual achievements.
Referees: Referees enforce the rules and award points based on the established criteria. Replays and challenges to point deductions can be incorporated.
Presentation:
Commentary: Announcers focus on athleticism, strategy, and team dynamics. Plays can be broken down and analyzed like other sports.
Medical Staff: Emphasize safety and showcase the athletic conditioning of wrestlers.
Minimal Kayfabe: Wrestlers maintain their characters, but storylines focus on team rivalries and championship aspirations rather than over-the-top theatrics.
Benefits:
Appeals to a wider audience: Fans of traditional sports may be drawn to the athleticism and competition.
Emphasis on teamwork: Highlights the collaborative nature of professional wrestling.
Statistical analysis: Provides a deeper dive into the performance of wrestlers and teams.
Fresh approach: Offers a unique twist on the professional wrestling industry.
Challenges:
Balancing entertainment and realism: Striking a balance between exciting action and maintaining a believable points system.
Fan acceptance: Wrestling fans accustomed to traditional storylines might need to adjust their expectations.
Wrestler training: Wrestlers may need additional training in grappling and athletic performance.
The PWF model offers a unique take on professional wrestling. By emphasizing athleticism, teamwork, and competition, it aims to attract a new audience while still delivering exciting in-ring action.
Thoughts? Questions?
Jim Crockett Promotions 2023 - CM Punk Goes to Carolina
Punk does not return to AEW after Brawl Out 2022 but rather helps Conrad Thompson and David Crockett in kickstarting the revival of JCP by becoming it's head booker. They attempt to nab ex-WWE stars (ex. Adam Scherr, Barbie Barz, Candice LeRae, Carlito, Chelsea Green, Johnny Gargano, Jonah, KAIRI, Karl Anderson, Killer Kross, King Kota, Lina Fanene, Luke Gallows, Mia Yim, Nixon Newell, Sam Shaw, Scarlett Bordeaux, Tehuti Miles, Tenille Dashwood, Top Dolla, Trinity, Taylor and Windham Rotunda) originally released by Vince before Triple H can re-sign them during his WWE takeover. From there, Punk works on recovering from his torn triceps in preparation for one last run as an in-ring performer while also looking to pick up developing stars (ex. Alan Angels, Dragon Lee, Brian Pillman Jr. Brock Anderson, Fuego Del Sol, Jonathan Greham, Joey Janela, Marko Stunt, Rachael Ellering, Sonny Kiss and the Von Erichs) and free agents (Davey Boy Smith, James Storm, etc.) that don't come from Conneticut en route to signing a TV deal with the CW. And, yes, a partnership with the NWA is in the cards.
Punk does not return to AEW after Brawl Out 2022 but rather helps Conrad Thompson and David Crockett in kickstarting the revival of JCP by becoming it's head booker. They attempt to nab ex-WWE stars (ex. Adam Scherr, Barbie Barz, Candice LeRae, Carlito, Chelsea Green, Johnny Gargano, Jonah, KAIRI, Karl Anderson, Killer Kross, King Kota, Lina Fanene, Luke Gallows, Mia Yim, Nixon Newell, Sam Shaw, Scarlett Bordeaux, Tehuti Miles, Tenille Dashwood, Top Dolla, Trinity, Taylor and Windham Rotunda) originally released by Vince before Triple H can re-sign them during his WWE takeover. From there, Punk works on recovering from his torn triceps in preparation for one last run as an in-ring performer while also looking to pick up developing stars (ex. Alan Angels, Dragon Lee, Brian Pillman Jr. Brock Anderson, Fuego Del Sol, Jonathan Greham, Joey Janela, Marko Stunt, Rachael Ellering, Sonny Kiss and the Von Erichs) and free agents (Davey Boy Smith, James Storm, etc.) that don't come from Conneticut en route to signing a TV deal with the CW. And, yes, a partnership with the NWA is in the cards.
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Current idea that I'm just thinking about randomly
CM Punk buys into NWA following his firing from AEW and he just brings in all his buddies
CM Punk buys into NWA following his firing from AEW and he just brings in all his buddies
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Would be down for this, would save us from the Eternal EC3Current idea that I'm just thinking about randomly
CM Punk buys into NWA following his firing from AEW and he just brings in all his buddies
Him, FTR, Joe, Malakai sounds like a hell of a top roster
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The only way he became a step up was that he took the belt off of out of shape, immobile, uninteresting, possible sexual harasser (case settled), Mr. "I hate Pronouns on a roster with an openly non-binary wrestler" Tyrus the asshole.