No More Happy Endings - Once Upon a Time Mafia Game Thread

[Comrade Khan]

I think Barry shooting anybody at D1 is probably going to reflect poorly on him.

if you think that, what would be the scum motivation to do it?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

There's that classic town Jeff.

 

[Comrade Khan]

a ton of mando vs juice and other ppl vs juice.

I do agree she needs to be pushed further along tomorrow, a claim would be nice.

Ive never seen her post this much and not react all angry, so for that, I do commend her.

 

[Comrade Khan]

There's that classic town Jeff.

what specifically?

 

[Comrade Khan]

I'm gonna try to get a full read list up tonight, but I've come down with some sort of stomach bug. Not even sure how much longer I'm gonna awake, as I feel like absolute shit (no pun intended).

TOWN:
Me
Mando-Feel like he has worked really hard to get things figured out. Has been a constant source of input.
SA-Also seems to be genuinely trying to work to feel out the situation. Put together some quality ISOs earlier in the game which I think provided a lot of insight. Also, I've played (I believe) one game with SA when he was scum, and he was much more confrontational and aggressive. Seems to be taking a mellowed out, well calculated approach to this one. Limited meta, but meta nonetheless
Lethal-This is one I'm probably gonna need to do some research on starting tomorrow. At the onset of the game, I had put Lethal as non-scum for how he vehemently pushed the game out of the fluff phase at the start. I said then I don't think scum would be that committed to shutting down something that helps scum, at least not at the start. I haven't really noticed much from this slot today, but I've also been sick as fuck.

Slight Leans/Nulls:
Shade: He hasn't posted enough for me to get much on him. He's someone I talk to relatively often away from here, and while I tend to believe that some of his posts have been genuine (not knowing how mechanics worked on this forum for example), I don't really have enough to go on.
Ekko: Said up front he wasn't going to be active, and someone (maybe SA?) said that he knew for a fact Ekko didn't really want to play this game. I don't really have much to offer up on this one.
Silent Bite: So, gonna be totally honest here. We were a few pages into the game before I realized Silent BIte and Jeff were the same person. Gun to head, I'd probably put him on a slight scum lean. Didn't care for some of his interactions, but there's nothing jumping out and screaming "SCUM" to me.
Sky: Mild town lean, but that could change based on when/if some other people flip.
Wang: I don't have any doubt that he had some shit go down at work. I don't think he'd use his job as a way to hide game activity. At this point, putting him on a slight scum lean has more to do with how little I've seen from him and a cursory glance at how I think the numbers may be distributed.
Pendex: I was really ready to fucking hammer you during the Mando interaction, but then it seemed to kind of resolve. Mando is one of my strongest town reads, and I'm hesitant to say I fully trust you, but we're still at an early enough point for me to say that you were just kinda feeling out some people that you may not be familair with. For instance, you asked me why I felt the need to post when I wasn't gonne be around. I think that may have beena genuine thing since you don't know me. I've gone back and forth on this slot a couple times in my mind, but I'm leaning slightly slightly town. But it's a razor thin line.


Not Sure What to Call This Section:
Baldrick/Cereal Killer: Don't think I'm nuts for lumping these two together, but I immediately caught the comment CK made earlier about not knowing about the scum chat even though he has played 3 games. I'm not sure that I buy it, and Baldy was quick to point it out. If CK was being genuine, these two could both easily be town, but if something happens to CK and he flips scum, I think it goes a long way in clearing Baldrick. Don't think scum would call out scum for an off-handed, seemingly minor comment.

Juice/PHEN0M: I tend to lean slightly town on Juice, so I'll preface this with that. HOWEVER, I made it clear last night that I didn't like her town lean on McHenry being based on him saying, "I hope I don't get night killed." In the same way, I don't like her comment that N0M saying "ggs y'all" after she told him he got killed locks him in as town. N0M hasn't been very active, and I'm not locking him in either side.

I do feel like it's probably that at least one person (possibly 2) out of this group of 4 is scum.

NOT TOWN:
Grim-There is no way that I believe he's actually townie here. It's not his random shot on TP necessarily that puts me over that edge, as I can see how TP's gameplay may cause some people to question his alliance. I'm more bothered by the flippant response to finding out he killed a townie. I'm almost positive that Grim is some sort of Indy role here.

I may get ripped for not having more scum leans, but I think Grim is non-town, and I think I've got 1 (possibly 2) people in my NSWTCTS group that are scum. Blame it on my being too focused on McHenry's scumminess yesterday and being sick today, but this is where my mind is at ATM.

ill likely get back to this late because it is a lot to digest but I did selfishly see . what interactions made you scum lean on me but not SCREAM scum.

who would you jump to if in a hypothetical Grim were to flip town

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

what specifically?

I don't really see scum you taking so much effort to go back on every single post in the last day or so and overall give your thoughts to this degree. The way I see it, you'd be more controlling of the narrative as scum and not really allowing for other opinions to win out, but here you're not only conceding points but allowing other points of view to thrive. You're also challenging some people's views on things and giving people things to think about with regard to how people may act or why they think the way they do.

Town Jeff is 100% a team player and honestly usually isn't as stubborn, scum Jeff is more stubborn, underhanded, and less prone to concede when challenged, I think.

 

[Tommy Bedlam]

ill likely get back to this late because it is a lot to digest but I did selfishly see . what interactions made you scum lean on me but not SCREAM scum.

who would you jump to if in a hypothetical Grim were to flip town

All good. I didn’t particularly care for some of your interactions with Lethal early on. Maybe it’s because I’ve read Lethal as town, but it just kinda created a “you vs lethal” setup in my mind. Thought lethal was trying to progress the game and you were responding in a way that was just gonna result in an argument about tone.

A grim town flip would have me looking hard at Juice. I’m also nowhere near sold on n0m, and Juice’s quick decree that n0m is town because of a “gg” and a Simpsons gif screams TMI.

 

[Comrade Khan]

what is your read on lethal, grim.

 

[Comrade Khan]

All good. I didn’t particularly care for some of your interactions with Lethal early on. Maybe it’s because I’ve read Lethal as town, but it just kinda created a “you vs lethal” setup in my mind. Thought lethal was trying to progress the game and you were responding in a way that was just gonna result in an argument about tone.

A grim town flip would have me looking hard at Juice. I’m also nowhere near sold on n0m, and Juice’s quick decree that n0m is town because of a “gg” and a Simpsons gif screams TMI.

does it not bother you Lethal kind of gave him an easy town pass by telling him he was dead and nom posting a gif as if he believed it?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

what is your read on lethal, grim.

Gooood, honestly initially I was thinking he was town at the beginning of the game with how aggressive he was but as the game's gone on he just kinda slumped, didn't he? Outside of getting into a fight with Juice and Sky, the aftermath he got a little more passive from what I observed, but I'd have to go back and re-read much of his posts. I don't necessarily think he's even posted anything truly of substance either. Not paper-shuffling as he says, but his observations seemed rather on the safe side?

So I guess I'd say null until I re-read his posts properly

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

does it not bother you Lethal kind of gave him an easy town pass by telling him he was dead and nom posting a gif as if he believed it?

It certainly does me. N0M's post afterwards is also a reason I kinda still wanna go after him.

 

[Comrade Khan]

hmm well thats annoyingly similar to me, I do lean blue on overall play just didnt love that nom read. which is opposite to yours but i feel your read on nom is extreme too lmao

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Gg’s all!

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I mean tbh this just reeks either way lel

 

[Tommy Bedlam]

does it not bother you Lethal kind of gave him an easy town pass by telling him he was dead and nom posting a gif as if he believed it?

I really didn’t think much of Lethal saying he was dead. I kinda read it as an off the cuff joke. n0m posting a gif like he believed it didn’t really shock me all that much since he’d barely been around.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

I might be reading a little too much into it but it kinda felt like caught scum.

Then again, to WIFOM my own argument, surely someone would have told N0M that he isn't dead in the mafia chat lmfao. Or you'd think he'd have checked in there first?