NFL Offseason Discussion 2012

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Their defense kept them in games this is true, but the offense still has to score for them to win. Tebow had 5 game winning drives this season. One was in the playoffs. Again he's not Peyton by any means but have some respect for the guy that helped take your (not you but Elway) dump franchise to the playoffs for the first time in 6 or 7 years. Who's to say what this guy could be with some confidence from his team?
 

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I think he will understand that if you have a chance to get Peyton Manning you take it. I am sure he will sign somewhere and I hope he does great.
 

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until fixes his throw...there is only so much upside he has...being a winner isn't enough to go far in the playoffs
 

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for their sake I do to......Tebow and Bush could be a lethal combo
 

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I like the idea of Tebow, Beanie Wells, and Fitzgerald better.

That being said, the Broncos staff are a bunch of dicks. Dicks is what they are. Little tiny dicks in physical size, but hige dicks in the figurative sense. There's no way you should treat a QB who helped you get to the playoffs the way they have. To toss away the QB your future could have been built on for the sake of potentially three glory years max is vile and a load of BS. I'm pissed for Tebow. I know he's going to be a pussy about it, but that's just a crock of shit. Tebow shows signs of having a future, no one can say whether he will or not, but he at least shows signs that he can improve and become an elite QB. Meanwhile, Peyton is a liability, and if his neck or head gets hurt one more time, the show's over. Peyton is still the cream of the crop, I'm sure, but wanting to ride his abilities for a couple of years isn't justification enough for me for them to kick Tebow to the curb.
 

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Maybe they are keeping Tebow. I mean Miami just signed Garrard so they are set right?
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Garrard isn't on Tebow's level these days, I wouldn't say. He's more on Matt Leinart's level anymore... Still, I want Tebow to become a Cardinal. It seems like a natural fit somehow, and I think his opportunities to succeed will be MUCH greater. Plus, if he backs up Peyton for the next 3 years I'll be pissed as all hell.
 

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The garrard thing was a joke...he stinks

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I could tell by the .gif, I was just clarifying.
 

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Alex Smith just resigned with the Niners. I figured he would, no one wants to play in Miami.
 

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Tebow to Jets.....that sux for Sanchez

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Tebow's rade has been put on a hold, thanks to the Jets having to pay 5 mil to initiate the trade, due to a clause in Tebow's contract.
 

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Nothing like the Jets trying to create a little controversy.

Sean Payton was suspended for the entire 2012 season! Holy SHIT!!!!


The NFL handed down sweeping and unprecedented punishment Wednesday for bounties paid out on big hits, suspending New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton without pay for next season and indefinitely banning the team's former defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, who now works for the St. Louis Rams.

Payton is the first head coach suspended by the league for any reason. He is accused of trying to cover up a system of extra cash payouts that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell called "particularly unusual and egregious" and "totally unacceptable."
NFL suspends Payton, Williams

"We are all accountable and responsible for player health and safety and the integrity of the game. We will not tolerate conduct or a culture that undermines those priorities," said Goodell, whose league faces more than 20 concussion-related lawsuits brought by hundreds of former players. "No one is above the game or the rules that govern it."

According to the league, Payton ignored instructions from the NFL and Saints ownership to make sure bounties weren't being paid. The league also chastised Payton for choosing to "falsely deny that the program existed" and for attempting to "encourage the false denials by instructing assistants to 'make sure our ducks are in a row.' "

Goodell also banned Saints general manager Mickey Loomis for the first eight regular-season games next season and assistant coach Joe Vitt for the first six games.

In addition, Goodell fined the Saints $500,000 and took away their second-round draft picks this year and next.

The league announced the punishments via a news release.

The New Orleans Saints released a statement later Wednesday in response to the NFL's punishments.

"To our fans, the NFL and the rest of our league, we offer our sincere apology and take full responsibility for these serious violations," the team's statement reads.

"There is no place for bounties in our league and we reiterate our pledge that this will never happen again," it continues.

After the NFL first made its investigation public March 2, Williams admitted to -- and apologized for -- running the program while in charge of the Saints' defense from 2009 to 2011. He was hired by the Rams in January.

Goodell will review Williams' status after the upcoming season and decide if he can return to the league.

Sources close to Williams told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora that they were shocked by the news. The sources said they had been expecting a shorter suspension, something like a month or six games, and had been hoping for a ban that would last less than half a season.

The Saints now must decide who will coach the team while Payton is barred -- his suspension is effective April 1 -- and who will make roster moves while Loomis is out.

Saints quarterback Drew Brees reacted very strongly to Payton's punishment.

"I am speechless," Brees wrote via his Twitter account. "Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment."

The NFL said the scheme involved 22 to 27 defensive players; targeted opponents included quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Brett Favre and Kurt Warner. "Knockouts" were worth $1,500 and "cart-offs" $1,000, with payments doubled or tripled for the playoffs.

In a memo sent out to the NFL's 32 teams, Goodell ordered owners to make sure their teams aren't offering bounties now. Each team's principal owner and head coach must certify in writing by March 30 that no pay-for-performance system exists.

Punishment for any Saints players involved will be determined later, because the league is still reviewing the case with the NFL Players Association.

As recently as this year, Payton said he was entirely unaware of the bounties -- "a claim contradicted by others," the league said. And according to the investigation, Payton received an email before the Saints' first game in 2011 that read, "PS Greg Williams put me down for $5000 on Rogers (sic)." When Payton was shown that email by NFL investigators, he acknowledged it referred to a bounty on Rodgers, whose Packers beat the Saints in Week 1.

The league said that in addition to contributing money to the bounty fund, Williams oversaw record-keeping, determined payout amounts and who got cash, and handed out envelopes with money to players. The NFL said Williams acknowledged he intentionally misled NFL investigators when first questioned in 2010 and didn't try to stop the bounties.

Vitt was aware of the bounties and, according to the league, later admitted he had "fabricated the truth" when interviewed in 2010.