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Besides the fact that the Seahawks basically get a free trip to the Super Bowl. Dat AFC doe.
I'd like to see the Panthers upset the Seahawks in the championship but that's just me. But yea mainly focused on dat AFC.
 

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You wouldn't. I just hope Denver doesn't make it. Going for the Pats.
We have totally different NFL opinions if the Patriots make it I cry every night until next season.
 

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I heard about this a few hours ago. It is nothing new. Signs of hope? meh. They replace coaches every 1 to 2 years since 1999. No wonder the Browns can't win crap. lolol On the plus, they may be able to get a decent to good QB and we still have Gordon (for now, anyways...lol)

Cleveland Browns: Crappy Enough to kill Britanica's happiness. :damn:

Like I was telling Dolph's, the current draft order is Texans, Rams, Jaguars, Browns, Raiders. (Thought Atlanta was in there too but they're #6). There's 4 QB's this year considered to be elite, so you should end up with one.
 

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Cleveland Browns: Crappy Enough to kill Britanica's happiness. :damn:

Like I was telling Dolph's, the current draft order is Texans, Rams, Jaguars, Browns, Raiders. (Thought Atlanta was in there too but they're #6). There's 4 QB's this year considered to be elite, so you should end up with one.

I sure hope so. Seems like Cleveland gets only busts now.
 

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Looks like Dennis Allen is being brought back. Fuck. my. life.

In two seasons Allen is 2-14 over the second half of seasons. The two teams he beat? 2012 KC Chiefs (#1 overall pick) and 2013 Houston Texans (#1 overall pick)

I'm all for patience but this clown isn't the answer.
 

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You can't judge him off what he couldn't do with this roster. There's no reason to fire him.
As you know if your #1 pick isn't a QB this year, Reggie needs to go.

Leslie Frazier out in Minn

The 2nd highest scoring offense in the NFL (Philadelphia) had 51 TD's. Peyton had 55 by himself. DAMN.
 

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You can't judge him off what he couldn't do with this roster. There's no reason to fire him.
As you know if your #1 pick isn't a QB this year, Reggie needs to go.

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I can, have and will continue to do so. There is one thing you can always do with any roster: Have your team play hard for you and show progress. His teams, which lacked talent admittedly, regressed over the course of both seasons he was coaching. He is constantly getting outcoached coming out of the locker room. He makes minimal adjustments. I don't see anything NFL Head Coach-esque about him.

Sorry man I resepct your opinion on a lot of stuff but I think I've got my thumb on the pulse of this situation

defense is supposed to be his specialty and I watched him give up 50+ to an Alex Smith led offense. Sorry, I'm done with him and will find it hard to support this team with a dumbass like him at the helms.
 

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I can, have and will continue to do so. There is one thing you can always do with any roster: Have your team play hard for you and show progress. His teams, which lacked talent admittedly, regressed over the course of both seasons he was coaching. He is constantly getting outcoached coming out of the locker room. He makes minimal adjustments. I don't see anything NFL Head Coach-esque about him.

Sorry man I resepct your opinion on a lot of stuff but I think I've got my thumb on the pulse of this situation

defense is supposed to be his specialty and I watched him give up 50+ to an Alex Smith led offense. Sorry, I'm done with him and will find it hard to support this team with a dumbass like him at the helms.

I'll trust you on this one, you certainly know more about this squad than a dude across the country who sees them on Red Zone every now and then. There's been a ton of great coaches who arguably should have been fired at one point, so just preaching patience on principle with this one. But after they couldn't stop the Jamaal Charles Screen Play they HAVE to get rid of the DC at the very least. That was fucking ridiculous no matter how much you loved smacking Senhor with that.

Heard a lot about them "bungling the McGloin situation". What happened witth all of that.
 

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I'll trust you on this one, you certainly know more about this squad than a dude across the country who sees them on Red Zone every now and then. There's been a ton of great coaches who arguably should have been fired at one point, so just preaching patience on principle with this one. But after they couldn't stop the Jamaal Charles Screen Play they HAVE to get rid of the DC at the very least. That was fucking ridiculous no matter how much you loved smacking Senhor with that.

Heard a lot about them "bungling the McGloin situation". What happened witth all of that.

Pryor had played well early--- we competed week 1 in Indy, beat the terrible Jags, beat San Diego... anyone watching the games knew it was thanks to Pryor we were competing, he gave the team an undeniable spark and its why he won the job in preseason.

He gets hurt in the Giants game (he had been struggling at this point) and they coaches go with McGloin, who then beats the terrible Texans in his one big moment. McGloin never looks decent again for the rest of his playing time but mysteriously keeps the job of TP, who had us at least looking more lively.

Now my theory is this regime, being Reggie/DA, never wanted Pryor to become anything. He was an Al Davis pick and one they had no hopes for. Essentially, we were tanking the season. Nobody can say that obviously, but we were. Pryor won us 3 of his first 5 starts and that didn't look so good on our tank campaign. Here is what I think they see in Pryor, and they very well may be right, but who knows.

-Not a long term answer
-Short term boost that can squeeze the most out of bad teams
-Tebow-esque thrower (stats back this up sadly)
-Again, not the long term answer.

So essentially they went to McGloin because 1.) He had beaten the Texans on the road so they had the excuse 2.) He gave us less chance to steal games and 3.) to see if he could be a long term answer at backup QB. We've found out that I don't even think McGloin can be #3, a decent long term back up.

Anyhow, advance to week 17 and DA announces Pryor as the starter. Why? He said to get one last evaluation of TP in . TP's agent, and I, both scream bullshit. They wanted to throw him in to

1.) Prove themselves right to stick with McGloin when TP shit the bed.
or if by some miracle he performed:
2..) Up his trade value.

TP did a mix of both, proving DA right in the first half and playing decently in the second half. I fully expect him to be traded for whatever peanuts we can get this offseason.

now, how much of the QB situation was DA and how much was Reggie? I'm inclined to believe Reggie had his hand in that cookie jar, which pisses me off as well.

The bad part is I'm no more sold on Reggie as GM than I am DA as HC, but it seems I'm stuck with both for at least 2014 :((
 
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btw lol Cowboys

three straight seasons they can win the division with a primetime week 17 win and they lose all 3 times. amazing consistency
 

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Thanks Dolph's. And 8-8 in 3 straight years. Mediocrity at it's finest. LOL

Congrats, Washington, for having the first Not Completely Blue Coach Firing of 2013.
 

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So whats the count so far:

Rex Ryan: STAYS (good move IMO, this was his best coaching job of his career, even better than b2b AFCCG losses IMHO)
Chudz: surprisingly gone
Shannahan: Duh
Houston: Heard they want Bill O'Brien?
Frazier: Gone
Jason Garrett: NOT FIRED somehow??? roflmfao
Dennis Allen: Probably safe
Detroit: Schwartz getting another chance? pathetic

oh and I've heard that Schiano may bolt to Penn State if O'Brien goes to Houston.