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New Japan Pro-Wrestling Thread

The EC

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Kenta was knocked the fuck out and shouldn't have had to go that long and went straight home.

People whined about Goldberg/Taker......this was the same exact shit.
Not the same exact shit because the match didn't completely fall to pieces after KENTA got KO'd (and bonus point for KENTA not knocking HIMSELF out), but it did deteriorate and I think one of those guys should have made the call to wrap things up way sooner nonetheless.

Also, check any review of the event and the knockout is noted, with the reviewer saying things went downhill afterwards.
 

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The man had to go directly to the hospital afterwards.....did a little more than "deteriorated".

But when it's done in New Japan.....
 

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The man had to directly to the hospital afterwards.....did a little more than "deteriorated".

But when it's done in New Japan.....
When it's done in New Japan people still point it out. :lmao Have you actually watched both the matches though? If not, I'm not sure there's any reason to continue this discourse.
 

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No one was pointing it out.....heard more about Jericho's title than kenta wrestling with a concussion.
 

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Yeah KENTA's Concussion during his Match with Ishii was truly scary to watch. So many times after he was really close to further hurting himself not knowing where he was at that moment. Ishii vs KENTA Rematch will be better if you go by how good it was in the first half, and expecting that and more in a Rematch.
 

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No one was pointing it out.....heard more about Jericho's title than kenta wrestling with a concussion.
Well I think you're just being obtuse, unsurprisingly. Royal Quest was the third biggest show of the weekend, not quite under the same microscope that WWE's Saudi shows or AEW's PPVs are. And based on what I know about your preferences, you're no doubt exposed to more WWE chat than NJPW. So if you ever thought you'd hear as much about KENTA working with a concussion, as you would Goldberg working with a concussion, that's your problem. If you care to see people criticizing the decision to continue the match, just search "KENTA concussion" on Twitter. Google "NJPW Royal Quest" and look at the news that comes up. Click on any site's review of Royal Quest and read about the KENTA/Ishii match. It's all there buddy.
 

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The fact you have search kenta concussion and it not trending.....what more can I say?

Free pass.

But since you're just instantly dismissing me because you don't like what I'm saying......I see you hypocrisy.
 

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The fact you have search kenta concussion and it not trending.....what more can I say?

Free pass.

But since you're just instantly dismissing me because you don't like what I'm saying......I see you hypocrisy.



Alright then. My only "problem" is that you seem upset over nothing. I just can't imagine why you thought it would ever be as newsworthy. And for what it's worth, I think if Goldberg and Taker's match wasn't a complete trainwreck, it wouldn't have been the fiasco it was. I feel like it's the fact that Goldberg got concussed and then they botched the entire rest of the match that made it the story it was. KENTA was pretty clearly knocked out and in a daze for a few minutes afterwards but the match wasn't a total disaster. If you had just made a comment about how NJPW was in the wrong for letting it go on, we would have never had this back and forth because there's really no debating that. I saw on Twitter someone counted KENTA took 30 additional strikes the head after he got dropped. That's a bad look on NJPW and the wrestlers' part, which is really all that needs to be said. It doesn't always have to come back to some anti-WWE agenda, does it?
 

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Lance Archer tweeting at Luchasaurus for a match. Inject this into my veins.

Fucking crazy that Archer had a breakout performance in The G1 at age 43, wtf. And Ishii arguably being the best wrestler of 2019 at the same age. I have no idea how these guys do it at their ages with such a dangerous style.


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Ishii practically can't have a bad match. But the trouble is that sometimes he falls into having formulaic matches that lose their luster after a while. Nonetheless, he's easily top 20, probably top 10 in the world for me this past half-decade.

Archer wanting a piece of Luchasaurus is an interesting one. Don't see that being possible in the near future unfortunately.
 
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Ishii practically can't have a bad match. But the trouble is that sometimes he falls into having formulaic matches that lose their luster after a while. Nonetheless, he's easily top 20, probably top 10 in the world for me this past half-decade.

Archer wanting a piece of Luchasaurus is an interesting one. Don't see that being possible in the near future unfortunately.
I agree with this for sure. I love Outlaws like Ishii and Suzuki, guys who from the old era bringing up the current Wrestlers and teaching them some respect. I could watch both those especially wrestle all day and Ishii vs Moxley was one of my favorite Matches from the G1 Climax this Year. Archer vs Luchasaurus should be interesting if it happens as Archer just might be eating on the Bones of Luchasaurus by the end of the night.
 

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Ishii practically can't have a bad match. But the trouble is that sometimes he falls into having formulaic matches that lose their luster after a while. Nonetheless, he's easily top 20, probably top 10 in the world for me this past half-decade.

Archer wanting a piece of Luchasaurus is an interesting one. Don't see that being possible in the near future unfortunately.
Valid points.

I wonder what Archer's contract situation is. If njpw doesn't have him locked up, they better do so quickly.


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I agree with this for sure. I love Outlaws like Ishii and Suzuki, guys who from the old era bringing up the current Wrestlers and teaching them some respect. I could watch both those especially wrestle all day and Ishii vs Moxley was one of my favorite Matches from the G1 Climax this Year. Archer vs Luchasaurus should be interesting if it happens as Archer just might be eating on the Bones of Luchasaurus by the end of the night.
Booo Luchasaurus has suffered enough for 65 million years!

But seriously two big men who move like cruiserweights is an exciting thought. The Japanese fans absolutely loved Lance this g1, not easy to do, for a gaijin. Completely agree on Ishii vs Moxley. Big fan of the semi-final and final, as well. Ibushi using Omega's moves to win it...

On another note, whilst I have always appreciated Osprey's athletic ability, what really sold me on him as a premier wrestler is his selling vs Archer.


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Booo Luchasaurus has suffered enough for 65 million years!

But seriously two big men who move like cruiserweights is an exciting thought. The Japanese fans absolutely loved Lance this g1, not easy to do, for a gaijin. Completely agree on Ishii vs Moxley. Big fan of the semi-final and final, as well. Ibushi using Omega's moves to win it...

On another note, whilst I have always appreciated Osprey's athletic ability, what really sold me on him as a premier wrestler is his selling vs Archer.


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I was sold on Ospreay after that fucking BOSJ final with Shingo.

:banderas:

Hell of a match.
 

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I was sold on Ospreay after that fucking BOSJ final with Shingo.

:banderas:

Hell of a match.
That was a great match, for sure! Shingo is another amazing performer. Njpw's depth is ridiculous

I was also impressed with White. His moveset is so good, varied and consistent with his finisher. He looks like an adult now with facial hair

Sidebar question: is Okada's rolling Rainmaker new? I could've sworn i didn't see it couple years ago..


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