My Manchester United rant thread

[Crayo]

Nice for everyone that isn't a United fan lease:

 

[Stopspot]

found you a new sig Crayo.

 

[Wilby]

Goodbye City 1:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26533631

 

[Muur]

United being terrible is fun for everyone else.

 

[seabs]

Is Vidic going for a record of most reds against 1 team or something? 4 against Liverpool is crazy.

 

[Saddlerrad]

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[Crayo]

You posting your referrals again? Yawn.

I think we could fair quite well against City tonight. If you're a United fan and you can remove two players from the line up, it'd probably be Kompany and Aguero - honourable mention for Yaya Toure as well. Those two being out means they've got a shaky defence and not much pace/penetration up front. As usual when facing City, you'll be up against a far greater midfield which consists of Yaya Toure (top scoring midfielder), David Silva (most audacious hair cut, and is a fairly decent creative talent xD), and an in-form Nasri.

However, no one seems to mention how open to counter-attacking football Manchester City are. They are genuinely one of the most vulnerable teams when it comes to counter-attacking because they too use the 4-4-2 formation most of the time. If they use it again tonight, and Yaya Toure does what he does by going forward over and over again, that lives just Fernandinho to stop our counter-attacks. There will be a ton of space in the middle for Mata, Kagawa (hopefully he plays, if Moyes doesn't find his down-syndrome), Welbeck (our most important player), and Wayne Rooney to counter-attack at the heart of City's defence, which contains no Vincent Kompany.

Of course we need to actually keep them out and if Rio Ferdinand does play instead of Carrick, he needs to not have one of his absolute meltdowns he has now-and-again in defence. This is how I'd set up United after fantastic performances against Olympiakos and West Ham:

De GOAT
Rafael - Ferdinand - Jones - Evra
Carrick - Fellaini
Welbeck - Juan Mata - Kagawa
Rooney
​

Fellaini won't be sitting like he sometimes does. We can't afford to be that negative, and it seriously hurts the team. He needs to be aggressive, and box-to-box, making sure he supports and sets up attacks as well as defending. I have a feeling Moyes will be a cunt and not play Kagawa though, so I reckon we'll play the line-up I've suggested but with Welbeck out on the left and Valencia on the right, which sucks.

I fear the Liverpool team far more than the City team.

 

[seabs]

Kompany is fit Craydawg.

 

[Wilby]

I think we could fair quite well against City tonight. .

As a fellow United fan I disagree but hope I am wrong. After so many home losses this season for United it seems Old Trafford is not the fortress it once was for us. Due to our recent performances against City in the past two seasons it's just hard for me to see us picking up any points. Don't get me wrong I would love to be proven wrong.

Of course we need to actually keep them out and if Rio Ferdinand does play instead of Carrick, he needs to not have one of his absolute meltdowns he has now-and-again in defence. This is how I'd set up United after fantastic performances against Olympiakos and West Ham:

De GOAT
Rafael - Ferdinand - Jones - Evra
Carrick - Fellaini
Welbeck - Juan Mata - Kagawa
Rooney
​

I have a feeling Moyes will be a cunt and not play Kagawa though. .

Agree, Moyes is frothing at the gash for Valencia over pretty much all of our wingers/CAM's. In regards to your team I'd switch Jones and Carrick around, the only reason for this is Phil Jones' bipolar football, he either completes a fantastic tackle or completely destroys a player with a tackle, can we risk his ability to give away fouls against City? Not sure dude.

I fear the Liverpool team far more than the City team.

On this season's form I definitely fear Liverpool over City. Then again I fear any top 6 team home or away this season against us :sad:

 

[Crayo]

Kompany is fit Craydawg.

He was like unfit a day ago. The guy is a freaking robot. We have lost then.

 

[Crayo]

Wilby, you'd move a CB to CM and a CM to CB against City? I don't see the logic. Carrick had one good game against West Ham but let's not forget his other performances as a CB where he was garbage. Furthermore, the guy is our best midfielder and forward passer, why would we want him in defence? Jones can be unreliable but he has been great recently in that position, a position where he is tipped for greatness might I add.

 

[Wilby]

Wilby, you'd move a CB to CM and a CM to CB against City? I don't see the logic. Carrick had one good game against West Ham but let's not forget his other performances as a CB where he was garbage. Furthermore, the guy is our best midfielder and forward passer, why would we want him in defence? Jones can be unreliable but he has been great recently in that position, a position where he is tipped for greatness might I add.

In hindsight maybe putting Carrick there is irrational haha. I guess I just see the amount of fouls Jones is giving away recently and it scares me that these fouls may happen inside the box...I don't fancy any Yaya Toure penalties today after the two he put away at the weekend. I'm scared Crayo! Scared!

EDIT: Some of my judgements for Jones are based on MOTD highlights, I have work during any game we play on Saturday's between 3pm and 9pm

 

[Crayo]

In hindsight maybe putting Carrick there is irrational haha. I guess I just see the amount of fouls Jones is giving away recently and it scares me that these fouls may happen inside the box...I don't fancy any Yaya Toure penalties today after the two he put away at the weekend. I'm scared Crayo! Scared!

EDIT: Some of my judgements for Jones are based on MOTD highlights, I have work during any game we play on Saturday's between 3pm and 9pm

To be honest, all my nightmares contain Yaya Toure. One of the few midfielders in world football who is genuinely unstoppable when he turns up. However, his strengths can be his teams flaws - he loves holes. Also, fuck MOTD, their pundits are bloody awful. Jones is a great CB and has been great recently imo. I can't see us giving away tons of penalties again; the Liverpool game was just a freak of nature mixed with the worst performance I've ever seen at home. Since then, Moyes has actually realised we have a counter-attacking squad filled with pace that we're allowed to use, instead of relying on two strikers in a very slow 4-4-2 system.

Be positive. We've not played this well all season.

 

[Wilby]

To be honest, all my nightmares contain Yaya Toure. One of the few midfielders in world football who is genuinely unstoppable when he turns up. However, his strengths can be his teams flaws - he loves holes. Also, fuck MOTD, their pundits are bloody awful. Jones is a great CB and has been great recently imo. I can't see us giving away tons of penalties again; the Liverpool game was just a freak of nature mixed with the worst performance I've ever seen at home. Since then, Moyes has actually realised we have a counter-attacking squad filled with pace that we're allowed to use, instead of relying on two strikers in a very slow 4-4-2 system.

Be positive. We've not played this well all season.

But but but...Russell Brand was a pundit on Saturday though :umad:

Agreed that this is our best form all season by a country mile, looking forward to the game.

 

[Wilby]

1 minute in and we are losing. Wish I could take back that £5 bet I placed on United to win...