MTG Mafia, Angels vs. Enemies - Game Thread

[Chris]

Nah, I think Big Man prevented my shot on OMB. His role usage clearly states he has a 1x protective role over his target. Everyone was pushing me to shoot OMB that day. I was the only full claim with vig, no way Big Man didn't use that shot to protect himself from losing d1.

Yeah this seems likely. OMB claimed character D1 right? So Big Man knew that was his target and he couldn't let him get shot

 

[Poyser]

Nah, I think Big Man prevented my shot on OMB. His role usage clearly states he has a 1x protective role over his target. Everyone was pushing me to shoot OMB that day. I was the only full claim with vig, no way Big Man didn't use that shot to protect himself from losing d1.

No yeah he absolutely did

But it’s not like OMB would know that. When you said you shot him, he said you were telling the truth and that he had a 1x BG shot like. He wasn’t BP or anything so it’s interesting he went for that defence rather than saying you must’ve been blocked or whatever

 

[Evans]

But if one of them is fake I’d lean towards phenom rather than banez. But then I don’t really believe seraph knight is the only protection we have either

What?

You'd put Banez who initially lied about his claim and then pretended to not know what a seraph knight is? A role you've said is very common around here over N0M who's claimed weak BG and has been spot on with his reads so far pretty much?

 

[Poyser]

Could be that he was just bullshitting tho tbf but as scum if you survive a shot and you genuinely don’t know how you survived then you don’t usually make up some bullshit to explain it, as you’d assume you survived due to a townie lol

 

[PHEN0M]

I think I’m about where Poyser is. It’s a hell of a gambit if Banez/magic are the last two i just don’t think that’s the case here.

 

[Poyser]

What?

You'd put Banez who initially lied about his claim and then pretended to not know what a seraph knight is? A role you've said is very common around here over N0M who's claimed weak BG and has been spot on with his reads so far pretty much?

Yes because phenom 100% did not stop a kill last night and yet there is a missing kill

 

[Showtime]

No I mean you said you didn’t see scum vibes from him at all lol. I wanna know how you got that conclusion

His reactions to things wasn't as tame as the last time I saw him as scum where he was passive.

 

[Evans]

No yeah he absolutely did

But it’s not like OMB would know that. When you said you shot him, he said you were telling the truth and that he had a 1x BG shot like. He wasn’t BP or anything so it’s interesting he went for that defence rather than saying you must’ve been blocked or whatever

I doubt he used it at all. Would he have received notification he'd been shot by the mod? I thought you just use a BG shot and if you're shot it works and if it does nothing then you don't know.

 

[Evans]

Yes because phenom 100% did not stop a kill last night and yet there is a missing kill

Yeah, cause they shot CP. He was an easy POE target that had me and Banez on it. I think my claiming vig shot on CP messed up their plan to bus someone who was pushing CP.

 

[Poyser]

I doubt he used it at all. Would he have received notification he'd been shot by the mod? I thought you just use a BG shot and if you're shot it works and if it does nothing then you don't know.

I don’t know what you’re talking about, I think you’ve misunderstood my point

I’m saying i think scum might’ve had a protective role, and used it to protect OMB that night. So even tho big man also protected OMB, he would be assuming he survived because of his teammates’ protection. If big man was the only reason he survived then no, OMB (or the rest of his team) would not know how he survived and would just say that, because they’d assume a townie would step up and say well he survived because of me

 

[Chris]

Yeah, cause they shot CP. He was an easy POE target that had me and Banez on it. I think my claiming vig shot on CP messed up their plan to bus someone who was pushing CP.

And you think this is the most likely scenario though?

 

[Poyser]

Yeah, cause they shot CP. He was an easy POE target that had me and Banez on it. I think my claiming vig shot on CP messed up their plan to bus someone who was pushing CP.

CP was being suspected a fair amount, it’s a very odd kill that they’d go for him over me or magic or you. Especially as your role is a bit of a thorn to them, so they kinda have to kill you before endgame

 

[Chris]

I don’t know what you’re talking about, I think you’ve misunderstood my point

I’m saying i think scum might’ve had a protective role, and used it to protect OMB that night. So even tho big man also protected OMB, he would be assuming he survived because of his teammates’ protection. If big man was the only reason he survived then no, OMB (or the rest of his team) would not know how he survived and would just say that, because they’d assume a townie would step up and say well he survived because of me

Basically if scum blocked EV then OMB would have said "EV was probs blocked" is your point lol I think that's a likely assumption as well

 

[Showtime]

Outlandish? Probably.

I think we're looking at Banez and Magic as the final pair tbh.

Magic's voting record is spotty. He votes Jeff, is no where near OMB's lynch and didn't vote D2. He disappeared pretty much following Jeff's lynch almost as if he can coast as a town player. He knows Brutus can protect him from town shooting until endgame where he can just come back in without anyone really asking questions.

Banez' has only been on Rugrat, CP & Lethal. Why does Banez follow Lethal so quickly onto the CP vote and then back to Lethal? Especially with Poyser leading that lynch.



This quote here just feels like a tease to try and push Magic & Banez as close to confirmed town as possible.

Magic bussing Jeff D1 because his wagon was starting to pick up steam before Jeff voted him then everyone moved onto Jeff. I don't think Jeff wanting to play and do well doesn't crawl over and die over his lynch unless he's knowingly being bussed which Magic set up with the "lynch him blind" situation.

Just reading back into how Magic caught onto Jeff is beyond me. It could just be his meta knowledge of Jeff but reading back now it just looks very disingenuous, almost as if he knew Jeff was scum. Does Jeff let himself be bussed in a team with OMB, Banez & Magic?

It would explain Magic's almost fake anger to the claiming situation, knowing he'd likely be forced to claim soon although I think he believes what he was saying as well lmao.

Why does Magic prevent OMB from claiming though? Everyone knew OMB wasn't lasting long at all. Magic doesn't give away the opportunity to try and direct a power role shot from someone he doesn't think can be trusted with a pr IMO.



Also, why did he say 4 claims? Only me and Barry had claimed at this point and tbh, Barry's was pretty much a soft.



OMB didn't hint a powerful role at all, he said it is somewhat beneficial.





Wtf is this as well? He knows who Magic is.



Why is he trying to delay OMBs lynch?
He's literally setting OMB up to try and save him after Jeff flips scum.

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Then just suddenly turns around on OMB for no reason? Realised he's shit in the QT?

He was also early



Now he's back to subtly defending OMB?



How did he know they'd lost their only ability to protect 'any teammate'? Also "any team mate" feels very specific. Does Banez have a BG role that is linked with Magic?



Almost like you were a step ahead, the entire time...

Lmao


Yes I knew Jeff was scum. It's called being really good at mafia when I'm playing


I never defended OMB. I didn't like how many claims were being forced. I called Chris town for what he said about OMB, not OMB.

Evans I'm not scum and I wouldn't buss a teammate and then stop playing after leading their lynch. That's just being an asshole.

As for the co quote, we were arguing if it made a difference who we lynched first.

 

[Poyser]

Anyway about the OMB stuff, I can’t put too much weight on it because he’s a mad cunt that doesn’t really listen to his pals in the qt lol