MTG Mafia, Angels vs. Enemies - Game Thread

[Poyser]

@Showtime do you think alco kinda fits the bill for someone that has given up since you blocked that kill?

 

[Banez]

What was your role again Poyser and actions?

 

[Poyser]

What was your role again Poyser and actions?

2x watcher

Watched EV night 1, no visitors.

Watched you night 3, again no visitors

 

[Banez]

2x watcher

Watched EV night 1, no visitors.

Watched you night 3, again no visitors

Atm, worst case scenario is that you're the final scum. And you've bussed nearly your entire team to be ultimately town read. You got magic who used his role on you. And you're smart enough player to not shoot one night to "prove" his role being useful.

Magic shouldn't have said that he doesn't get notified if he uses his role on a scum. So it would be a plausible play to withold a shot one night if you were scum.

Again, i'm not saying you are scum. I trust you to be town, but if we lynch Alco and he flips town.. and Lawls gets confirmed by magic being town then we have to look other directions.

Another play is that LAWLS is the final scum and got E-V's role but due to no kill last night, that is kinda out of the window since he can't create the situaton anymore, unless he can dig grave twice.

I'm just hoping that Alco is the final scum, but we'll probably wait first for Lawls/Magic confirmation.

 

[Poyser]

Yeah but it’s worth noting that lawls could still be scum even if he proves he’s a messenger. The grave digger could be legit. He might be a grave digger that killed EV to get his role and probably assumed that we would tell him to take EVs role but we didn’t, we told him to take Juice’s role so that kinda put a mocker on that plan (if that was the plan). If he’s a 2x grave digger then we are probably just fucked lol but don’t think I’ve ever seen that before as it would be pretty OP.

I just for the life of me can’t imagine it being anybody else. Magic isn’t gonna bus half his team and I don’t think he no kills last night just to put it over the top as it wasn’t needed and just delays his win. That’s the same reason I wouldn’t do it either, because I’m so well town read that it’s just delaying my win and causing me to need an extra mislynch for no reason. Also I couldn’t have done it because whilst I suspected that magic was lying about having no shots left, I wouldn’t take the chance on that because if I’m wrong then I’ve fucked it for no reason lmao.

I really don’t see Rugrat’s role being scum. It’s not impossible but what’s the utility of it? There’s also the fact that he’s just not bothered to play all game, and I don’t think he’s ever done that as scum. As well as his results being what caught Phenom out when he didn’t need to. Again it’s Occam’s razor that says he’s more than likely just town

The only possibility I see outside of the current poe is you, but I don’t think I ever lynch you over lawls or alco at this stage so if it is you then you’re probably winning again, there’s quite a few reasons that I don’t think it’s you. The possibility of you stopping a kill, the fact that your N1 usage is verified at face value and would need a couple of things to go exactly the right way for that to not be true. It also kinda looked like phenom wanted to get you Lynched off of his claim. If you read it he’s like “well looks like we have a lot of protection because I’m weak bg”. At the time you were the only claimed protection role and I can’t remember if you’d clarified it being a seraph yet or not, but it seemed to me like he wanted to get you Lynched at the time. So again, probably just town.

And if I’m wrong on that then OH WELL. If it’s Rugrat or magic then I’m not going to feel bad about the loss at all. Magic because he went way too far in establishing a town read lmao and Rugrat because that role being legit and scum is fucking stupid lmao and you can see by the way he’s played the game (IE not at all) that he also knew he was never getting lynched with it. If it’s you I’ll be a little bit annoyed just because I kinda had you before phenom got caught out, but I’d just consider myself a bit unlucky there with the way things turned out.

However I’m not gonna conspiracy theory myself into losing to a lawls or an alco that haven’t put any effort into the game because that would piss me off no end lol

 

[Poyser]

Oh wait, we should probably lynch lawls tomorrow regardless to be safe lol

Just realised OMB could’ve motivated him as he was permitted to use it on a teammate and his role seems like it was the most useful at that point. Like they would’ve used his role and the only ones it makes sense to use it OJ would be lawls (if he’s the gravedigger) or phenom to get another ninja shot

 

[Poyser]

Oh wait nvm, we know lawls wasn’t visited on N1 due to Rugrat

Did they not use the motivator shot?

 

[Poyser]

Okay so my role is basically where I can find out the number of visits each player received, I used my role on N1 - these were the results:

Magic received one visit
E-V received one visit
OMB received two visits
Poyser received one visit
Tweet received one visit
Big Man received one visit

Magic received one visit - Banez
E-V received one visit - me
OMB received two visits - big man and EV
Poyser received one visit - magic
Tweet received one visit - OMB
Big Man received one visit - scum?

Surely they didn’t motivate big man lol. Not sure why they wouldn’t have used his role

 

[Poyser]

@Rugrat what’s your role called

 

[Banez]

Maybe they rolecopped Big Man

 

[Poyser]

Maybe they rolecopped Big Man

Yeah that’s what I’ve been assuming

But that’d mean they didn’t use the motivate which I can’t fathom at all lol. I don’t see why they’d motivate big man. Using his role on (who they would think is) town to get another shot doesn’t make sense considering they thought he’d be dying that night

The conspiracy in my head is saying maybe Rugrat got motivated and he left that out of his results because nobody would buy him being visited on N1 by scum if he was town.

Tho, I mean, we don’t know who was in the scum qt at this point. OMB, PHEN0M (who may not have been paying full attention) and then one of alco/lawls who weren’t really present, it’s kinda not really a reach to believe they just forgot about it lol

 

[Banez]

Would this be one of those games where you, Magic, CP are all town.

 

[Poyser]

I mean it looks pretty certain lol

 

[Poyser]

The Rugrat thing is probably nothing. Not sure why he’d be motivated with that role anyways lol. He could have another but as said there’s been no sign of a roleblocker or whatever

 

[Rugrat]

My role is called big brother