Money in the Bank Mr. Money in the Bank....Finally time to turn heel?

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The idea that a Cena heel turn would work out brilliantly, though, or garner a huge boost in ratings or whatever is still a roll of the dice logic based on "if only WWE books it right..." There's no guaranteed they would, or that people would accept it. I think Austin's heel turn in 2001 was done perfectly, but no one wanted to boo Austin, which is why he was able to turn babyface the very next night after Survivor Series 2001, almost as if he never turned heel in the first place. I also would want a Cena heel turn to be more in the long term, at least two years or so. It's irritating to suggest that this Cena heel turn that people keep trying to make out as what would be the greatest thing ever would only really last about half a year anyway before going right back to babyface.

I think the best way to turn Cena heel (if you turn him at all) is to just wait until the rest of the casuals grow lukewarm to him, and all the members of the Cenanation start to find him stale, much like the Hulkamaniacs from the 80's eventually did with Hogan, and we all know what happened there. In other words, probably when all the children who cheer for Cena now eventually grow up to be teenagers and then find him boring and corny.
 

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Yeah it's a gamble when they have to decide to turn Cena Heel. Lots of pluses but lots of minuses.
 

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Punk went heel, case closed end of story :pipebomb:
 

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He never turning heel
 

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This whole "turn Cena heel" thing has been going on for a long time. What seems to be getting forgotten in all of this is that turning the top face on the show heel is rarely successful, thus it's always a huge gamble.

Bret Hart was the top face in WWF and was seen as being stale by a big chunk of the fanbase. Stone Cold Steve Austin was the top heel but was so charismatic and good at being a badass that he was starting to be cheered by a big chunk of the fanbase. At Wrestlemania XII (if I recall correctly), the two face off, wrestle a classic match, and Austin passes out in the Sharpshooter rather than tapping out, thus proving himself to be "the toughest SOB alive". After the match, Hart goes on to become a tremendous pro-Canada, anti-USA heel and Austin goes on to be the biggest babyface wrestling star in history. You have to remember that neither of them really changed their character much, outside of toning down certain aspects and playing up others. This was a huge gamble on the part of WWF, but it worked.

Hulk Hogan was the top face in WCW. Kevin Nash and Scott Hall were on their ways to being the top heels, with the Outsiders and the mysterious "Third Man". Suddenly, the third man is revealed to be Hogan and the nWo is born. This goes on to be one of the most popular (some would say the most popular) heel stables in wrestling history. This was a huge gamble on the part of WCW, as you never know how a crowd's going to react. What if the crowd had cheered Hogan, Hall, and Nash? Again, a huge gamble, but it worked.

Stone Cold Steve Austin faces off against the Rock for the WWF Championship at Wrestlemania X-7. At the end of the no disqualification match, Vince McMahon (evil billionaire) helps Austin win and the two celebrate by downing "Steveweisers" in the ring. The crowd had no idea what it was supposed to do and the majority of the Houston, Texas, crowd (as well as the San Antonio, Texas, crowd the next night) continued to cheer the "do anything to win" ethic of the Rattlesnake. It was a gamble trying to turn Stone Cold heel and it failed miserably.

I bring these up to say this: you can never be sure how a heel turn or face turn is going to work out. WWE chickened out last summer. They should have kept Punk away for a while, let the title situation stew, with a renegade WWE Champion out there, building up to unification match at Survivor Series (think of the fantasy booking, sending up sacrificial lambs to face "Corporate" WWE Champ Cena while still finding legitimately respectable competition against "Renegade" WWE Champ Punk, matches to be held on WWE PPV's, as that's the place where a champ needs to defend his title....now end the feud at Survivor Series with Cena doing "everything it takes" to beat Punk, cheating his way to victory to become the "True" WWE Champion, turning heel and getting more pops for Punk, thus not compromising the things that made Punk's character fresh and exciting and reinvigorating Cena's character, also allowing Punk to "re-sign" with WWE in a quest to get his title back, winning the Royal Rumble, qualifying for Elimination Chamber....the possibilities rapidly become endless, but, no, they didn't do any of this). But it was too big a risk.

I can understand WWE's reticence in its handling of a Cena heel turn (hell, look at the muck-up made of Punk's face turn; even his fans didn't like it). They have to decide if it's more important to take the risk and try something new or if it's too expensive to even attempt. Unless TNA or ROH becomes big enough to be an actual threat, I don't know if they'll ever have that kind of courage again.

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To Wacokid's point above, Austin's didn't work because the fans were still behind him, whereas Hogan and Hart were awfully stale at the time. Cena's stale right now, but in each case they had someone to take over. Right now, they don't. If Cena turns heel, Sheamus and Orton become the top faces? No, just no.

TNA was without a top face for a while (well, I guess James Storm) and while they turned out okay, I'm not sure if WWE's fanbase can handle waiting around for WWE to build up their Austin Aries as Cena and Punk go on their reign of tyranny with no legit main eventers to stand in their way (they'd probably panic and bring back Triple H)

And also, who on the roster would you push as the new top face? Christian? Miz? Bryan?
 

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Now see, that is the question. No other big baby face is legitimately over like Cena. Hell, no one is over like Cena.
 

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If they would actually use the guy, the only person I see with as much star power is Riley tbh. Christian can be a pretty good stopgap.

Maybe there are a few others, but they've been booked to the point of irrelevance.
 

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Same here, Riley can generate a huge reaction for such a jobber face. When I went to Raw in Chicago, he recieved a massive pop.
 

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Seth Rollins.


Go with me for a moment.

Punk and Cena as the top heels (I know, recent events suggest this isn't the way to go, but it could be fun anyway) go on a reign of terror that sees them destroy Orton, Sheamus, Christian, Jericho, Kidd, whoever.

Then, from out of nowhere, comes Seth Rollins. Tyler Black has a ton of charisma and could be booked as a legitimate threat. Ryback, who had been behind Punk and Cena (they were feeding him the scraps), suddenly turns on the Power Trip (I know, name's been used, but it's wrestling, so probably the New Two-Man Power Trip)

Imagine that for a second. Top 2 heels are Punk and Cena. Top 2 faces are Rollins and Ryback.

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Cena heel turn would ruin company!!