More on Lesnar not being used at last night's RAW

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Exactly, thats why I wanted know. All this "he failed a drug test" rumor shit. No mention of what he failed for though. Roids, pot, the rock as Shadow mentioned before maybe??? I assumed roids but was not sure if anyone heard anything else.

lol the fact is the source of this is some shithead on Reddit and is 99.99999% likely fake.

 

[Trip in the Head]

lol the fact is the source of this is some shithead on Reddit and is 99.99999% likely fake.

Indeed, especially when certain details are left out like that. Oh well. I liked the idea of the ensuing drama in WWE. Probably be better than half of the fake drama they come up with for the shows.

 

[KITT]

This entire thread is fuckin dumb

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

Damn there is no telling what happened, hope it was nothing too major.

 

[edge4ever]

Basically it sounds like Brock had told them right before the show that he was done after WM31 and UFC was where he was heading right before or early on during the RAW show and then they got butt hurt and pulled him from advertising.. even though he was still back stage and part of his money for technically still appearing.

That could be it... But why would they pull him from tv when they clearly need to still use him for their story lines? It would see mm to me that they're more concerned with what they can do with him now and not worry about later.

Plus if Brock goes back to ufc... He's going to get his ass kicked.

 

[Somethingcool57]

I still think this is some over zealous DB mark making up stories to try to push them to put him in the main event again. Hopefully it doesn't work.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I still think this is some over zealous DB mark making up stories to try to push them to put him in the main event again. Hopefully it doesn't work.

Of course it's not gonna work. The ME is set and nothing will change it.

 

[The GOAT]

I still think this is some over zealous DB mark making up stories to try to push them to put him in the main event again. Hopefully it doesn't work.

The Roman Reigns drug test failure? Maybe. Or it may have been some rather ingenious Reigns mark who, knowing the story would quickly be disproven and knowing that people would immediately think it was the work of some over-zealous Bryan mark, decided to spread the story himself in an effort to make Reigns look good and his haters (at least one of them) look bad. I'm probably reading too much into it with that theory, though.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

The Roman Reigns drug test failure? Maybe. Or it may have been some rather ingenious Reigns mark who, knowing the story would quickly be disproven and knowing that people would immediately think it was the work of some over-zealous Bryan mark, decided to spread the story himself in an effort to make Reigns look good and his haters (at least one of them) look bad. I'm probably reading too much into it with that theory, though.

That story was reported fake, there was no issues with a drug test

 

[The GOAT]

That story was reported fake, there was no issues with a drug test

I know... I said that. :idk:

 

[mh0707]

Now it doesn't matter if the wellnes thing is true or not. We will hear the "smarks", as they call themselves, chanting about this FOREVER. This will probably affect some part of Roman Reigns' career. If the rumours are true, then he deserves it but if it's false it's absolutely awful for Roman.

 

[InSaNe]

What I've been reading about this elsewhere, and I agree with pretty much what Lords of Pain said...

It's funny to me because the limited date yet higher pay contract that Brock Lesnar sought during 2003-2004 is what he received, and then some, for 2012-2015 in the WWE. Funny how things change with time... The WWE has been more than generous to him... Can you blame Vince McMahon for asking for more appearances and/or a lesser salary for limited appearances? I don't... Vince McMahon knows what he's doing and through 2015, WWE doesn't need Brock Lesnar to survive. He has defended the WWE Title TWICE since August 2014 and the WWE is drawing just fine.

Brock needs to start seeing Vince's way, or seriously, GTFO. Even I don't give a shit about you. I mean, I like this "beast incarnate" schtick, but your whining about not making enough money... $5 million a year. THAT's not enough for you!? I agree with the notion that WWE has been more than generous, more than nice about this whole thing than Brock lets on.

 

[Snowman1]

It's really easy to sit back in my chair and say "Brock wants MORE money for so few dates, are you kidding me?" but really, how much do we know about how much cash a wrestler is worth or payouts or any of that? Hell, WWE doesn't even know.

All I know is this: Throughout 2015, if you take Brock Lesnar out of the picture, how bad of a year would this be? We'd have yet another Cena vs Rollins match instead of that classic we had at the Rumble, which leaves us with an all-time horrible PPV and a utterly forgettable one, right after they just lost their ass on this Network they're betting the future of the company on last year. Hardly the time you want to put on bad PPV's.

If you add Brock Lesnar Germaning the shit out of Fandango or somebody to the Fast Lane card, guarantee you'll enjoy that show more than you did. "But he's useless on Raw" lol, everything's useless on Raw

Whoever thought up the idea should be taken out back and put down, frankly.

"You know those 60 dollar things we beg people to buy each month?"

"Errr, pay per views?"

"Yea, those things"

"What about them?"

"What if we make it so you can buy a network with lots of content for 10 dollars a month?"

"What does this have to do w/ PPVs?"

"We include them on the network!"

"Soooooooooooooooooooooo you want to include something we normally charge $50 for in a package that costs 10 dollars a month?"

"Absolutely, what could go wrong??"

"...."

1:

It was a good idea at the time... kinda.

More people streamed PPV's than buy them - you know that - so the idea least they're getting SOMETHING out of the modern fanbase that would have some affinity for old content... problem is they're overvaluing the shit out of their own content. That'll only satisfy people for so long. After you watch enough of it, what incentive do you have to stay subscribed to the network as opposed to going back to streaming?

And that's the issue with Brock's contract - he can't save this flawed ass Network by himself

 

[The GOAT]

I'm a huge Lesnar fan, but if WWE wants him to work more contracted appearances to further justify his pay, or if they want to pay him less for working what is roughly the same contract he works now if he were to sign a new deal, then it's understandable on their part. It's tougher to make their investment back on him now that they have to rely on Network subscriptions instead of PPV buys (although a lot of folks still purchase events on PPV even while subscription numbers go up, so it's debatable), and a lot of people tend to exaggerate what Lesnar's natural drawing power is anyway.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Not sure how Lesnar's drawing ability is exaggerated. He is the biggest draw in MMA and po wrestling in the world