More on Lesnar not being used at last night's RAW

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The fact that they still don't know the new PPV payouts from their own ass astonishes me.

The fact that you would start a venture like WWEN without knowing how it would affect performer pay (given that PPV pay was based on PPV buys) astonishes me. The fact that the WWEN has been around for a year and there's still questions surrounding how it works horrifies me from a business standpoint.

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The fact that you would start a venture like WWEN without knowing how it would affect performer pay (given that PPV pay was based on PPV buys) astonishes me. The fact that the WWEN has been around for a year and there's still questions surrounding how it works horrifies me from a business standpoint.

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Whoever thought up the idea should be taken out back and put down, frankly.

"You know those 60 dollar things we beg people to buy each month?"

"Errr, pay per views?"

"Yea, those things"

"What about them?"

"What if we make it so you can buy a network with lots of content for 10 dollars a month?"

"What does this have to do w/ PPVs?"

"We include them on the network!"

"Soooooooooooooooooooooo you want to include something we normally charge $50 for in a package that costs 10 dollars a month?"

"Absolutely, what could go wrong??"

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WWE's official statement:

"That story is absolutely, 100% untrue."


"When a person says 'Absolutely not' they are absolutely lying"


They might not be but I would LOVE it if that story were true.
 

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That was my thought as well. We won't know if it is real, because Vince can easily say "no, he did not fail a drug test" and how can anyone argue with him?
 

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Could we say that Roman did it..... for da Rock?
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Meltzer shooting it down carries a lot more weight to me than WWE denying it does. WWE would have reasons to deny it's veracity since they'd be trying to protect their biggest future prospect in Roman Reigns, but Meltzer wouldn't, especially since the whole Reigns push/Bryan treatment pisses him off anyway (not that that would necessarily translate to being gleeful he failed a drug test, but still.)
 

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Meltzer shooting it down carries a lot more weight to me than WWE denying it does. WWE would have reasons to deny it's veracity since they'd be trying to protect their biggest future prospect in Roman Reigns, but Meltzer wouldn't, especially since the whole Reigns push/Bryan treatment pisses him off anyway (not that that would necessarily translate to being gleeful he failed a drug test, but still.)
You are the biggest Meltzer mark this side of the Young Bucks

who do you think Meltzer gets his info from?? Obviously people who work for WWE
 

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You are the biggest Meltzer mark this side of the Young Bucks

who do you think Meltzer gets his info from?? Obviously people who work for WWE

But that info comes from people who would be instantly fired if Vince/Hunter/Stephanie/Dunn or anyone else in upper-management ever found out they were leaking shit that should be kept away from outsiders. They wouldn't really have reasons to lie to Dave about whether Reigns actually failed a drug test or not.
 

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But that info comes from people who would be instantly fired if Vince/Hunter/Stephanie/Dunn or anyone else in upper-management ever found out they were leaking shit that should be kept away from outsiders. They wouldn't really have reasons to lie to Dave about whether Reigns actually failed a drug test or not.
Realistically if Reigns actually did fail a drug test even within WWE probably very few people would know the truth if Vince didn't want them to. The doctor who handles testing, Vince, HHH, Reigns and maybe a couple of others would be the only ones in the know. It isn't like Vince is going to hold a company meeting if he wanted to keep Reigns out of trouble
 

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This is a circular argument (as is Meltzer's reporting of it).

If Reigns did fail a drug test (for the record, I don't see any reason why he would be on 'roids and think it does smack of someone with an agenda making up a story) and Vince didn't report it out, or even denied such a report, there's not exactly any way Vince gets in some kind of trouble for it. There's no law saying pro wrestlers can't use steroids (at least not any more of one than applies to actors, bodybuilders, powerlifters, normal folks) and the fact that pro wrestlers use steroids is so widespread and accepted that most people are under the impression that every pro wrestler in the biz is a 'roid freak (even when physical evidence pretty strongly militates against it.....how's it goin', Colt Cabana?). The only thing on the line here is Vince's "reputation", which is so bad it can't be recovered in some circles and so golden it can't be tarnished in others. So, if Reigns failed and Vince denies the report/rumor, no big deal.

On the other hand, if Reigns didn't fail a piss test and is clean, what's WWE going to say?

Unless one of you guys is going to pay off the WWE doctor/lab who ran the test and get definitive evidence that there was a failed test, there's no way we'll ever know if this is right or not.

Oh, and by the way, Meltzer is probably the best and most honest pro wrestling reporter out there, which is kinda like saying I'm the biggest guy in Lilliput.

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I was going to ask if this "failed" drug test was for 'roids or something else. Like pot for example.
 

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I was going to ask if this "failed" drug test was for 'roids or something else. Like pot for example.
Idk why I laughed at the bolded part.

And what he failed for isn't a part of the rumor.
 

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Idk why I laughed at the bolded part.

And what he failed for isn't a part of the rumor.
Exactly, thats why I wanted know. All this "he failed a drug test" rumor shit. No mention of what he failed for though. Roids, pot, the rock as Shadow mentioned before maybe??? I assumed roids but was not sure if anyone heard anything else.