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I'm sorry I was harsh to you Juice, but you reducing the argument to tpein here just make you look silly. if you have a problem with me , pm me and we can discuss it further.
 

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lets just be honest. Jeff was being a cunt for no reason at the start of the game. no idea why people are more annoyed at T-Pein for being upset by a sub-optimal setup.
Jeff was. This has been acknowledged.

I even told Grim I thought Jeff was the issue with the interaction with you.

This doesn’t give TP license to be a dick on the setup.
 

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Like I think I’ve told Jeff he needs to stop at least six times now I think if I keep telling him it’s gonna get a little repetitive.

He’s even acknowledged that he understands we’ll be clamping down on bad interactions.
 

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his comments aren't even that bad. its actually sort of insulting, that this is what happens to someone who is annoyed by a setup and isn't actually that rude in their original comments. no idea why we are so insistent on chasing people away.
 

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and fwiw, Gip and co were ready to lynch Juice for her refusal to play or answer questions. I didn't deal with it in the proper way, but saying for no reason is a bit of a stretch. Juice knows she plays an immensely cagey style that frustrates more than one player by refusing to expand on her thoughts. I should have let it go , absolutely, but it wasn't ''for nothing''.
 

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his comments aren't even that bad. its actually sort of insulting, that this is what happens to someone who is annoyed by a setup and isn't actually that rude in their original comments. no idea why we are so insistent on chasing people away.
telling someone everyone is mocking him in another thread is pretty insulting and rude from my pov
 

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that being said Juice, I am sorry for how I spoke to you. you are right that it wasn't cool and I was being a cunt.
 
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his comments aren't even that bad. its actually sort of insulting, that this is what happens to someone who is annoyed by a setup and isn't actually that rude in their original comments. no idea why we are so insistent on chasing people away.
Telling the host that people are laughing at his setup and that Grim wasted his time with it isn’t that bad?

I’m not sure how much further he’d need to take it for you to think that’s also flaming.

So asking someone not to flame is chasing them away, but also not telling people not to flame is chasing people away. Seems like a catch 22.
 

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If anyone wants to send me a guide on what flaming I should give a pass too and when I need to say something, please pass it along to me. This feels like we’re making it up as we go along.
 
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Telling the host that people are laughing at his setup and that Grim wasted his time with it isn’t that bad?

I’m not sure how much further he’d need to take it for you to think that’s also flaming.

So asking someone not to flame is chasing them away, but also not telling people not to flame is chasing people away. Seems like a catch 22.
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If giving feedback on a setup - which lets be honest is unbalanced. I think someone is allowed to be frustrated by it. Seems like Grim only really cares about some stuff and not others to be honest.
 

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If giving feedback on a setup - which lets be honest is unbalanced. I think someone is allowed to be frustrated by it. Seems like Grim only really cares about some stuff and not others to be honest.
thats like every human in the world tbh
 
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If giving feedback on a setup - which lets be honest is unbalanced. I think someone is allowed to be frustrated by it. Seems like Grim only really cares about some stuff and not others to be honest.
You can give constructive criticism without telling them they suck at life.

I agree though the setup was not good and yes Grim can be quite selective.

I wasn’t even harsh on TP. Just asked him to be more constructive. And that was only after HE tagged me into his issue with Jeff over the comment.

I already admonished Jeff for it.

In fact in real time I only talked to Jeff. I didn’t say anything to tp when he made the comment.
 

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Smark both messaged me here and in private, I don't really know what more you guys want from the lad. PM me or wtv if you wanna get your shit off or tell me how you feel.
 
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it is what it is. just seems strange, because people have said much ruder things about setups in the past. But whatever.
 

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it is what it is. just seems strange, because people have said much ruder things about setups in the past. But whatever.
And I’d rather we change that.

Maybe it’s just me, but there’s like nothing more demoralizing after you finish hosting a long game then the entire post game is people shitting on you.
 
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