Let the Past Die: The Skywalker Saga - A Star Wars Mafia Game Thread

[Odo]

unfortunate.

vote on brutus based on lackluster entrrance you already commented on, I assume?

Yeah, sort of. Carrot and stick you know

 

[Comrade Khan]

vote brutus

I'm bored as well, so I will assist with the stick

 

[Odo]

Im looking forward to @CraigPelton 's input when hes around too

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Maybe I'm a derp, but Odo could you explain you and Jeff's reasoning for voting Brutus wrt his alleged entrance?

 

[Odo]

Maybe I'm a derp, but Odo could you explain you and Jeff's reasoning for voting Brutus wrt his alleged entrance?

A watched pot never boils

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

A watched pot never boils

Damn you and your English idioms.

*I had to look that up.

 

[Evans]

So Barry,

Why are your trying to force a claim out of Shania so early? First post was a joke, 2nd gave your intentions away.

Spoiler: Claim Pushing

Hey KIF you wanna be and just claim so we know whether to lynch you or not?

A claim isn't a reason to lynch you, your play in general is. However a good enough claim can be a good way to dissuade that.

We've already established that hider being outed is not a good thing for town. This is silly.

Spoiler: Claim

Yoda - Commuter/Hider, x-shot.

Let's go.

My role would come out eventually and it's a good utility role for town so it being out in the open is a good thing, in my opinion at least.

No buys. I notice as well that you're quite vocal about being upset with Jeff. Why have you not pushed this any further but instead tunnelled me over an innocent page 5 response to your strange claim?

But I suppose you follow it up with this second post which is incredibly disingenuous. You don't really provide any real reasons or facts other than "E-V has been contradicted" and breadcrumbing that your vote is there in spirit.

Spoiler: Return Post

I have returned I was playing with friends and couldn't find the time to come back and join last night. Time to address a few elephants in the room as folks seem to be missing the forest for the trees or are ignoring a few facts.

1.) This whole willingness to claim situation. I've literally pulled both ways. I've been a hard-ass who refuses to claim, and then I'll literally just claim to not deal with it. I've done both as town and there's several games wheres that's an example. I've given up and claimed as vigilante before, and the whole informed townie situation, was because I was actually doing well for once and folks just wanted to see me die for "???" reasons.

2.) Everytime I've been made to claim early on, you should be looking at who's been pushing me at the time. Do you honestly think, once Jeff has made up his mind, he's going to just change it based off of some half-cocked idea that because I wouldn't just blindly follow him with a vote on E-V, that automatically makes me scum? I don't just blindly follow folks anymore, dude. When is the last time I've ever truly blindly followed someone without a motive behind it? I literally know I'm not going to win in an argument between one of Odo, Poyser, or Jeff, and frankly, I'm just not going to bother with it. They're persuasive as shit and I don't have time to deal with it.

3.) I'm trying to play nice and not go into automatic flame mode so forgive me for being terse and frankly just not dealing with it normally. I'm not sorry for claiming. I'm also not sorry if you don't believe me. That's your damn prerogatives.

4.) Jeff laying traps is a well known strategy as either alignment, but it feels so tacky when it's such a lazy trap and based of such a lazy factor as whether or not someone just blindly jumps on or not. I'm sorry Jeff, it just felt like shit, mate. Your entire motive for the trap could basically boil down to "Let's see if someone follows hum dee dum". It's and you should admit that the trap was predicated as much on such. Yes, I claimed, but again, I also know when you make your mind up, you're hard-pressed to change it and will push someone to the death.

5.) Odo's not wrong. Since I've claimed, I'm essentially a policy lynch waiting to happen and I'm okay with that. If it helps Town, so be it. I just absolutely hate getting pushed for no reason on D1 over, and over, and over again, god dammit. It fucking blows and some days makes it hard to want to play when I know I'll just be cannon fodder repeatedly.

Now as for the EV situation, I can understand the push for him here, he has multiple times where it appears he's either contradicted himself or has made poor arguments and so I very much agree with this push in spirit. I don't know how many votes he has at the moment. But my vote is spiritually on there.

As for Jeff, I don't necessarily think he's scum, just... I guess the correct word would be nitpicking and reading people scum based of incredibly minor interactions/lack thereof? He's still null to me.

Hungry for claims, aren't you?

Vote: E-V

I'd just like a claim at this point.

Funny coming from me though.

Now your reads list, I notice that you mentioned Odo earlier about him not being wrong about the policy lynch. Nothing wrong with that point until you show your hand and you've started to attempt to get cosy with Odo. I don't disagree with Odo looking town thus far.

Your point on me was amusing though, as we've just gone through in our back and forth. The only receipts you can provide is in regards to the comparison of your MTG game. How weird when you've noticed so many disingenuous posts and these citations about contradictions?

Spoiler: Reads List

Sure.

1. Odo - You seem pretty townie to me at the moment, you're more active and pressing people actively. I'm not master of reading people, but this seems a fair indicator to me.
2. E-V - Currently my only real lean, but mostly due to some of what felt like disingenuous posts and I'm not sure I've liked any of what he's been putting up. Also cited a few contradictions of his testimony.
3. Christian Cage
4. CraigPelton
5. Jeff Valley Driver - Jeff is still null to me ATM, but I'm still waiting on his answer to my inquiry over why he felt so confident in his push against me despite it being very much

6. Mitch-a-Roonie

7. Grim Cornette
8. Ace Dalton
9. Poyser - I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Poyser is probably town as well. I've liked quite a few of his posts that I find myself rather hard-pressed to disagree with.
10. Alco
11. Lethal Banks - Unsure how to read Lethal for reasons both you and Poyser have put up. Mind you, I've never ever read Lethal particularly well before so it might just be a case of me pissing in the wind.
12. OMB - Please show up more. I know you're around.
13. TKOK - I hope he doesn't get himself modkilled.
14. Tweet - Can't really decide how to feel about him atm.
15. Big Man
16. Shania Twain - Would like to go down this road at some point because I'd rather not have to wade through inane postings of his. I also can't read him for shit and a claim down the line would really help with that.
17. PHEN0M
18. NotBrutus

More buddying here.

Spoiler: Buddying Odo

Because Odo, too, makes good points about N0M.

Fence sitting.

And as for why I say this, I do mean it genuinely. Odo has a reason to read N0M town, and Poyser has reasons to read N0M scum. I'm of the position that while I don't know his alignment, possibly lynching N0M down the line would be a good idea to potentially give us some of that sweet INFO.

I asked you what contradictions you've found and you immediately run to Odo?

What contradictions have you tripped me up on other than our discussion in regards to your Informed Townie role v now please?

Receipts would be handy.

Bruh, Odo was literally going on about you trying to worm your way out of people having to read you by going to the Tweet well.

My story has been straight, this is a great example of you trying to twist a reaction to your claim and comparing previous situations I believe to be similar.

Is your intent to use it to vote me or read me town? I frankly don't care which it is, but it would be nice if you got your story straight.

and again

Here you go, EV.

Oh, now you're twisting this too v

Now I don't even get what EV's arguing about regarding time.

I think Barrys claim is nonsense and I look forward to him flipping scum

 

[Tweet]

unvote

I don't think that last post is scum making a case against town.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

So Barry,

Why are your trying to force a claim out of Shania so early? First post was a joke, 2nd gave your intentions away.


We've already established that hider being outed is not a good thing for town. This is silly.


No buys. I notice as well that you're quite vocal about being upset with Jeff. Why have you not pushed this any further but instead tunnelled me over an innocent page 5 response to your strange claim?

But I suppose you follow it up with this second post which is incredibly disingenuous. You don't really provide any real reasons or facts other than "E-V has been contradicted" and breadcrumbing that your vote is there in spirit.


Hungry for claims, aren't you?



Now your reads list, I notice that you mentioned Odo earlier about him not being wrong about the policy lynch. Nothing wrong with that point until you show your hand and you've started to attempt to get cosy with Odo. I don't disagree with Odo looking town thus far.

Your point on me was amusing though, as we've just gone through in our back and forth. The only receipts you can provide is in regards to the comparison of your MTG game. How weird when you've noticed so many disingenuous posts and these citations about contradictions?



More buddying here.

Spoiler: Buddying Odo

Fence sitting.



I asked you what contradictions you've found and you immediately run to Odo?

My story has been straight, this is a great example of you trying to twist a reaction to your claim and comparing previous situations I believe to be similar.



and again



Oh, now you're twisting this too





I think Barrys claim is nonsense and I look forward to him flipping scum

Too bad I already explained it.

16. Shania Twain - Would like to go down this road at some point because I'd rather not have to wade through inane postings of his. I also can't read him for shit and a claim down the line would really help with that.

 

[Odo]

unvote

I don't think that last post is scum making a case against town.

er, did you read it?

thst was an awful quick assessment

 

[Evans]

Too bad I already explained it.

That doesn't explain it at all. As an experienced player, why would you want to out 2 full characters & roles within the first 5 pages?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

That doesn't explain it at all. As an experienced player, why would you want to out 2 full characters & roles within the first 5 pages?

KIF is literally always POE fodder. The sooner he's claimed the better so we don't have to worry about him.

 

[CraigPelton]

Liking Poyser thus far, not really liking Barry or PHEN0M

EV feels like a distraction that Barry is too happy to sink time and energy into

Just not buying PHEN0M's approach to this game at all as town PHEN0M lol

 

[CraigPelton]

Has anyone besides Barry claimed?

vote PHEN0M

 

[Evans]

KIF is literally always POE fodder. The sooner he's claimed the better so we don't have to worry about him.

So, you're happy to just try and expose someone who has made several posts about wanting to try and play this game properly, pay attention and learn and then expose 2 roles immediately in the first 5 pages, as someone claiming to be town?