Least Amount of Skill

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This has turned into an opinion thread for marks.
John Cena has done quite a lot with what he has. Guys with more talent have done less than John Cena.
Jericho has more talent, HBK has more talent, Kane has more talent than John Cena. Cena has done far more than each
From that perspective, Cena has no business being where he is. It doesn't mean he lacks talent, by any means.
The talents Cena does have are just the ones Vince values.
By the way, seabs will never agree, but freestyling in front thousands of people does take skill.

I still stand by Andre the Giant (lack of skill), but there has to be an element of truth to your post.
Andre definitely sucked in WWF, but from what I've heard he was an amazing worker for a dude his size back before he became basically immobile.
 

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Cena and Hogan are all flash and no sunstance

Bit like Barney the Dinosaur or Justin Bieber
 

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Cena and Hogan are all flash and no sunstance

Bit like Barney the Dinosaur or Justin Bieber
Yes, they are. It's called being mainstream and making dollars.
Kevin Nash doesn't are if 'one person watches this match'.
Kevin Nash gets his money, buries talent and moves on. What's so hard to grasp?
Diesel never has to work another day, but if he did, you can bet your bottom dollar it will have 4 or 5 zeros at the end of it.
 

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Nash is materialistic then

There is more to wrestling than making money, it is a serious business
 

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Nash is materialistic then

There is more to wrestling than making money, it is a serious business
I agree, but cats who do it for the passion can barely walk these days.
The cats you're talking about have drug addictions and joint replacements.
The cats who are 'serious' about the business are no longer with us today. I'd say wrestling is all about making money.
You can hate Bill Goldberg or Brock Lesnar for being greedy, but at least they're healthy and don't have to work.
You could hate Rock for leaving, but he was smart for doing so.

All Vince cares about his making money, why shouldn't his wrestlers be as greedy (if not more)?
 

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If Kurt Angle agrees, why not?
Nah, he didn't use mat wrestling as rest holds and so much guys nowadays do. He used mat wrestling in pro-wrestling to make it entertaining not dreadful.
 

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lol @dios you know I was clownin... but seriously

Sandow >>> Hulkster
Damien is the best there was, the best there is, and there best is!
cheers Bret Hart or should I saw Bret Sandhart.
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lol @dios you know I was clownin... but seriously

Sandow >>> Hulkster
Damien is the best there was, the best there is, and there best is!
cheers Bret Hart or should I saw Bret Sandhart.
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IMO he makes piss into wine with his current gig.