Wasn't aware that it wasn't allowed. I'll remember for next time, chief.
Konnan Gets Himself Into Hot Water
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Wasn't aware that it wasn't allowed. I'll remember for next time, chief.
I was actually implying that he was probably trying to get in her panties and when she called him out he turned ugly.
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Unless he was rubbing or massaging some part of her back in an overly flirtatious manner, then I would easily call it being too sensitive. Just because you aren't comfortable with something doesn't mean you're not being too delicate about it. It's not like he smacked her on the buttocks.
I think it more strongly indicates that he immediately knew from her response that she thought it was sexual and thus responded in the manner he did accordingly.
His reaction was one that happens so often and it's out of rejection. But nice try putting all the blame on her.
And again, not everybody wants strangers touching them, be it sexual or not.
And that makes what he said okay? If she felt that it was sexual and not okay, or if she didn't felt that it was sexual but still wasn't okay with it she has every right as a person to indicate so. She is the one who sets where the limit for her body goes, not Konnan. And his response is not painting him in a good light. Who the fuck responds to someone saying no like that but someone who thinks with the dick? Especially if he and this woman do not know each other. Then he's just coming off like a tool.
Point being, every person sets the limit for what is okay with their body, she might just not like people touching her at all without consent. And that is okay, she writes the rules for herself.
Do you know Konnan personally? Can you guarantee 100% that it was all a joke.
Here's how it works: The person who's body is being touched sets the rules. If that person is uncomfortable with being touched in any way then that person has every right to say so and defend themselves as they see fit, Konnan making some rude/raunchy/dirty/whatever comment does not absolve him. He still acted improper to this woman because she felt that he was acting improper. And that's the only measuring stick that can be used in regards to a persons body outside of extreme cases of obvious groping.
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Not really, it does happen. You never knew anyone when you were younger who, when rejected then said 'didn't like them anyway'? It's the same thing, except Konnan was more of an asshole.
It's especially prevelant on online dating sites, but that's mostly because people feel like they can be as shitty as they want without consequence.
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I'm talking more about going from a back touch to it being obviously sexual. Conan was in the wrong to invade her space but it just seems like you've gone from earth to Mars in one leap there. It could have been sexual but I wouldn't be comfortable making that assumption.
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To play devil's advocate you don't know him personally to say it wasn't a joke either. Can we say beyond a reasonable doubt his motives were bad?
I work with teenagers and deal with things like this on a far too regular basis for my liking where someone feel that someone else (a guy in general, but sometimes a girl) is a bit too touchy or don't respect boundaries, so pardon me for power leveling a bit.
In situations like this, you always work from the "victim's" point of view, because it is the only reasonable thing to do. The only one who can say what a person is or isn't okay with regarding their own boundaries or bodies is that person, in this case this television woman. If she was uncomfortable with whatever Konnan did then she is in the right, and it does not justify Konnan responding in the way he did. Konnan might not have known what he was doing wrong but by that woman's rules he did, and that's something he has to deal with.
It's both a matter of decency towards a person's body as it is a matter of respect amongst people. Since it also stretches to people's stuff let's use this example. If I don't like you playing around with my car and I tell you to stop, I expect you to stop when asked.
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