Kay I suppose I oughta speak more openly then.
I thought Jeff was sitting on a very strong role and wanted to get wagoned so he could pull out his claim and then go "awwwright let's see who's scum on this wagon then", but if he artificially creates a wagon like that with deliberately sketchy play, the wagon isn't gonna be worth much.
Declaration: this posts makes perfect sense I'm not sure at all his this is good guying