Just a couple of thoughts from fresh eyes

[edge4ever]

Edge did not have the worst spear.

Reigns spear is amazing.

Goldberg does have the best Spear ever and think this had a lot to do with his badass persona.

Batista had the worst spear. Looked so poorly timed and off beat. Edge could at least make his look impactful. Batistas was simply pathetic.

Welcome back to WWE. And enjoy it.

Also, Rollins character, the "bitch," is already getting old for sure. We have the NXT champion beating cena clean, which I'm fine with, but then Rollins can't win any match on his own... Always needs 4 people... There's no way Rollins could beat cena clean right now.

 

[Gman003]

I missed batistas 'career' but by the sounds of it, I didn't miss much lol.
Thanks for the welcome back. So far, for the most part, I am enjoying it.
I totally agree with the Rollins roll ggetting old, but keep me hooked anticipating the turn from the authority. Which hopefully comes at MITB

 

[Solidus1]

Mid 20's, bound to happen lol.

We have a few 30 and 40 year olds here btw. I think most of us are 18+

 

[Gman003]

And Kevin Owens is going to be a problem I hope. He could be an intense dude at the top soon.

 

[Gman003]

Wouldn't it be crazy if kane won the ladder match and cashed It in to either help Rollins or turn at the last second after destroying ambrose for Seth.

 

[Solidus1]

Wouldn't it be crazy if kane won the ladder match and cashed It in to either help Rollins or turn at the last second after destroying ambrose for Seth.

Kane is way past a role like that, but it's crazy enough for WWE to consider I'm sure.

 

[Gman003]

It would be a curveball for sure. I'd be happy with that ending to be honest. And if Seth wins it'll be from some sort of help or cheap shot.

 

[Prince Bálor]

It'd be nice if Rollins won on his own. But, seeing as how this shitty title reign of his has been, might as well let Ambrose win.
It'd perhaps make the product a little bit more interesting.

But, if Rollins retains against Ambrose (whether on his own or with the help of 44 dudes), then he is likely to lose the title at SummerSlam, which I'm cool with.

For a while now, there've been rumors Lesnar will return on post-MITB Raw episode, so the excitement in WWE will be restored.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'll never understand this logic, what can't they do under PG that would make the show great?

I'm glad at least Seabs is always on my side with this. WWE sucks right now IMO and it has absolutely nothing to do with no curseys or nudeys

 

[Solidus1]

I'm glad at least Seabs is always on my side with this. WWE sucks right now IMO and it has absolutely nothing to do with no curseys or nudeys

But that at least creates a more adult feel to it.
That, and more gore. When's the last time we saw someone burnt alive in a casket, or thrown off the top of a steel cage?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

But that at least creates a more adult feel to it.
That, and more gore. When's the last time we saw someone burnt alive in a casket, or thrown off the top of a steel cage?

You can have someone "burnt alive in a casket" or thrown off a cage with the current rating, It has nothing to do with rating. They could make it TV14 and they still wouldn't be throwing people off of a cage. You will never see shit like Foley again.

You can have an adult feel in PG. WCW was PG in the 90s and was very realistic and not childish at all.

 

[Solidus1]

You can have someone "burnt alive in a casket" or thrown off a cage with the current rating, It has nothing to do with rating. They could make it TV14 and they still wouldn't be throwing people off of a cage. You will never see shit like Foley again.

But we don't see things like that now. Why?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

But we don't see things like that now. Why?

No need for it, for starters. WWE is competing with themselves, why risk having someone seriously hurt by throwing them off of a cage?

Just a smarter society, #2. Back then they didn't even stop and think "hmm is this a bad idea?" now everything is a huge deal in society and concussions are a huge hot button issue. They are going to be limiting head injuries every way they can, which unfortunately means they won't be doing a lot of cool shit they used to do that entertained me, like unprotected chair shots. Now they should just leave the fucking chairs out of it because it is corny as fuck.

 

[Solidus1]

No need for it, for starters. WWE is competing with themselves, why risk having someone seriously hurt by throwing them off of a cage?

I guess. They've done these kind of things many times before without hurting anyone. It would appeal to adults more. especially those who grew up with the attitude era.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I guess. They've done these kind of things many times before without hurting anyone. It would appeal to adults more. especially those who grew up with the attitude era.

Having a once off where some dude has an incredibly dangerous spot isn't going to change the course of WWE for the better, but it could definitely change it for the worst if the guy gets hurt and investors start saying "hey why the fuck did you do that?" and selling stock.

Risk vs reward. All risk, literally no reward for having stupid shit that is potentially dangerous. WWE is a business and that isn't good for business. The people who you are talking about are already watching, they can't draw them in again. They already have them. That is why the IWC's "voice" is non existent. You can bitch, but you speak with your viewership and dollars. Vince has that, he doesn't give a fuck about what you actually want. He knows those types of fans aren't going away anyway. Once they do, maybe something changes.