IWF: Learn to give credit where its due

[chessarmy]

This thread isn't aimed at the 3 people that aren't biased towards TNA on this forum, instead, I think people like CMS, Trav, and others should read this and understand that, there are some good things happening in TNA that are being ignored. I'll go ahead and lead the way with a thread dedicated to the improvement this company has been showing lately. After a shitty Victory Road PPV and some terrible episodes of iMPACT!, it seems that finally things are turning around.

Morgan/AJ: Not only is this bringing AJ back into the spotlight, and the world title picture, but we're getting good matches out of these two week after week. Its certainly entertaining, and its a win win situation I think. I mean, I'm rooting for AJ Styles, but even if Morgan wins I'll be happy because they're still elevating young talent and putting someone new in the main event either way.

The World Elite: Eric Young is now one of the top heels in TNA, all in a matter of...2 weeks? They've done a great job building him up, and with the World Elite by his side, it looks like only good things are in store for Mr. Young. This past Thursday night, World Elite got the rub off the Main Event Mafia, brilliant booking here because instead of Angle treating them like a joke, he welcomed Young with open arms and it solidified his credibility. This is what the veterans should be doing, help to make the young guys look better

Hernandez: Hernandez is another guy that TNA has been pushing lately, and its working. Supermex is a very talented big man with lots of potential, I'm so happy they're giving him a chance to shine, a chance to show what he's made of. He's a fresh new face in the upper card and I think his momentum will continue to roll week after week

Homicide/Joe: How can you people not be hyped about this? Joe vs Homicide on PPV in a hardcore rules match for the X-Division title! This match has potential written all over it, Joe/Homicide have pulled a 5 star match before and it might happen again. This match will put the X-Division back on the map.

The Knockouts division is getting hot: With the addition of Sarita and Alissa Flash, it looks like the Knockouts division may be returning to its glory days. We got an awesome womens tag match this past Thursday on iMPACT! better than any TV divas match we've seen all year. This Knockouts division is loaded with talent, and the new additions will only make it better

The Pope aka ELIJAH BURKE: Elijah Burke is back! The man who had so much potential to succeed is now going to get that chance once again, in a company that will give it to him, TNA. I'm extremely excited to see what TNA has planned for Burke, I'm very interested to see what his future holds.

The TNA war: If you didn't find that huge brawl on iMPACT! entertaining you probably just refuse to give them credit for anything. I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through, it was pure awesomeness. The iMPACT! Zone was littered with EVERYONE from the face/heel sides beating the fuck out of each other. Then in the parking lot, the police get involved, and you just got a feeling that the battle between the World Elite/Main Event Mafia and the rest of TNA really is a war. TNA iMPACT! may be shitty at times, but there is no lack of entertainment value. The 2 hours fly by some weeks, this past Thursday was one of those shows that you just couldn't get your eyes off the TV screen. So TNA, good job, this was a great brawl on the best iMPACT! we've seen in weeks.

Now, to the IWF, I never see anyone mention these things in any posts about TNA. This leads me to believe that many of you don't even watch or pay attention to the product, so you have no room to bash it. This company, I will admit, has been in the shitter lately. But right now, with Jarrett, and Mantell leaving, it looks like things could be getting better. Over the past few weeks TNA has been pushing some younger stars, the battle between MEM/WE and the rest of TNA has gotten so heated it has become must see TV, The Motor City Machine guns are back on TV, Joe vs Homicide is scheduled for Hard Justice, and so much more. Sure, there are still some complaints to be made, but I see NOBODY giving TNA credit where credit is due. I hated this company a month ago, but when they do something right, its important to actually give them credit for it. I don't see enough of that on the IWF.

Love TNA, hate TNA, but ADMIT when they do something right, because contrary to what you people think, that stuff happens from time to time.

That is all.

 

[MikeRaw]

This should be titled "IWC" not "IWF".

 

[JurassicBonez]

The main problem I have with the World Elite, is that I don't think the other guys (besides Young) in the group will show any type of character developtment. They may play the Priceless role of Legacy just get beat up or do many run-ins. Also they need to tone down the Eric Young talk. Everything was about Young in everybodies promo. I like that they are pushing the guy cause I've been a fan of his for years and I'm glad that they are doing something good with him, but they have to watch out and not stuff him down our throats.

@Mikeraw: I think this title suits the theme well. There's a ton of people on here that say how much TNA sucks, TNA this TNA that, but don't give credit where credit is due. They have to find the smallest flaw. Some people here don't even make any sence which leads to believe that they don't even watch the show. It could be IWC, but IWF is better in this scenario.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

This leads me to believe that many of you don't even watch or pay attention to the product, so you have no room to bash it.

Of course we don't watch it. Anyone with half a brain realised TNA was shit long ago. Doesn't mean I can't bag them for the god awful things I read about in the spoilers (though I will admit, Angle vs Foley in that pole match where the medal fell off the pole sounded epic).

 

[Quintastic One]

This should be titled "IWC" not "IWF".

*Thumbs Up* Way to contribute to the discussion jackass.

Of course we don't watch it. Anyone with half a brain realised TNA was shit long ago. Doesn't mean I can't bag them for the god awful things I read about in the spoilers (though I will admit, Angle vs Foley in that pole match where the medal fell off the pole sounded epic).

If you don't pay attention to the product and base your entire opinion soley on spoilers, without bothering to watch the show or the pay per views, you really DON'T have a valid say in what you think about TNA. Does that stop you from saying anything? Of course not. But also any and all points you make are flawed from the word "go" because you obviously have no interest in developing an unbias opinion on what you think about their current direction.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

I am not going to read all of that, I'm just going to throw my two cents in all of this.

Despite what my posts might indicate, I dont exactly hate TNA. In fact, there was a time I was getting really into TNA and I found myself looking all over Youtube for their videos to catch their promos and matches (yeah, not THAT into so that I would actually watch Spike TV). But they always manage to screw it. The main problem with them is that they always complicate themselves. You name one wrestler and he's probably involved in like 6 things at once. Look at Joe, he has Taz going, the MEM, still some tension with AJ, and now Hernandez and Homicide. Another example would be the promo Kurt cut after Slammiversary. He directed it like against 4 or 5 guys. Just too much, too much going on at once.

I did read some of what you posted:

Joe vs Homicide? Good. The only thing is that by 2009, it should be for the World Championship, not for the X-Division. The match will be great, but for Joe, that is a step down.

Eric Young is a joke.

Burke? Overrated and so not needed. If he gets pushed to the main event right away, it would be at the expense of AJ and Matt Morgan and others, and if he doesn't, he's a midcarder we don't need.

 

[Wrestling Station]

Of course we don't watch it. Anyone with half a brain realised TNA was shit long ago. Doesn't mean I can't bag them for the god awful things I read about in the spoilers (though I will admit, Angle vs Foley in that pole match where the medal fell off the pole sounded epic).

Eric Young is more silly than Horny. So just imagine wasting your time with such nonsense.

 

[Soulpower]

Homicide/Joe: How can you people not be hyped about this? Joe vs Homicide on PPV in a hardcore rules match for the X-Division title! This match has potential written all over it, Joe/Homicide have pulled a 5 star match before and it might happen again. This match will put the X-Division back on the map.

Part of me is hyped for this match.. But all those great matches between Joe and Homicide didn't happen in TNA, and they also happened back when Joe was still in reasonably good shape.

 

[xtremebadass]

I agree Chess, ever since the iMPACT! after Victory Road, I have been glued to the TV unlike the old days where I used to fall asleep on the couch. They have been putting on great TV along with great TV matches. Usually the iMPACT! matches suck, but the AJ vs. Morgan series has been pretty good thus far, Eric Young vs. Daniels was a great match, the Tables Match for the IWGP belts was amazing and really cemented the World Elite as a massive fixture for the weeks to come.

I don't know how people don't like World Elite. These guys are phenomenal. They are just perfect anti-US heels, this is gold week in and week out. Some people say TNA should push some of their younger talent instead of the MEM, Sting and Foley, well here they are pushing this group of young stars, and people are still not happy.

I must admit, I am not really digging Bashir in WE, but it make sense.

The war segment was one of those history moments for TNA, that was great. MEM have really taken on the NWO like persona but with much more class, which is good. For a faction with 5 guys, about 13 people come out of the tunnel, lol.

They need to do away with Morgan promos, that guy needs to calm his ass down.

I am loving how Foley and Jarrett haven't had their weekly arguments.

TNA has been great ever since Jarrett has left the behind the scenes.

So yes Chess, I agree.

 

[★Chuck Zombie★]

The Pope aka ELIJAH BURKE: Elijah Burke is back! The man who had so much potential to succeed is now going to get that chance once again, in a company that will give it to him, TNA. I'm extremely excited to see what TNA has planned for Burke, I'm very interested to see what his future holds.

How can you list this as something they deserve credit for when they haven't even done anything yet?

The TNA war: If you didn't find that huge brawl on iMPACT! entertaining you probably just refuse to give them credit for anything. I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through, it was pure awesomeness. The iMPACT! Zone was littered with EVERYONE from the face/heel sides beating the fuck out of each other. Then in the parking lot, the police get involved, and you just got a feeling that the battle between the World Elite/Main Event Mafia and the rest of TNA really is a war. TNA iMPACT! may be shitty at times, but there is no lack of entertainment value. The 2 hours fly by some weeks, this past Thursday was one of those shows that you just couldn't get your eyes off the TV screen. So TNA, good job, this was a great brawl on the best iMPACT! we've seen in weeks.

OK, so TNA sets up this giant brawl to show TNA is at war. Th brawl is broke up by the police and security. Fair enough, that was pretty good. But why at the end of the night did they have all the heels involved in that brawl come out and do a beatdown on 3 faces. Where was the other half of this war? Sting, Lashley, and Hernandez with a chain.....that's it? Where was Beer Money, Team 3D, Daniels, and MCMG? It made them look afraid. They at least could have had them all out there and get overwhelmed by some sort of cheapshot........then have Hernandez come out.......but no.


With that said I would like to comment on the Styles/Morgan/Hernandez pushes.......it's about fucking time.

 

[Axis]

This is silly. It is absurd to think that, since you see things that TNA does right, it means that everybody else will see those things as positive. As always, you are simply listing things that TNA is doing, and claiming that they are good. Again, just because you think they are good doesn't mean that they are. You can say it's due to "biased opinions" all you want; but every opinion is biased. That's the nature of an opinion.

 

[monkeystyle]

Am I th eonly one who thinks Matt Morgan is one of the most boring wrestlers on the planet?

Guy has a great look but I've yet to see one good match or one good promo from him.

 

[PeepShow]

Eric Young is a joke.

Eric Young is more silly than Horny. So just imagine wasting your time with such nonsense.

You guys obviously haven't watched TNA in a while. Eric Young is a heel and is pretty much the only reason I would watch TNA right now. He owns.

 

[xtremebadass]

Am I th eonly one who thinks Matt Morgan is one of the most boring wrestlers on the planet?

Guy has a great look but I've yet to see one good match or one good promo from him.

He put on good matches with Styles for the past couple weeks, but beyond that he is the most boring thing in TNA. They characterize him as a wannabe. He is a total bitch kayfabe wise. Sure he is big, but so is Kevin Nash but you dont see TNA giving him equal airtime.

I swear if I see him and Lauren do another promo backstage I will throw my shoe at the TV. It always looks like Lauren thinks Morgan is going to rape her.

 

[chessarmy]

This is silly. It is absurd to think that, since you see things that TNA does right, it means that everybody else will see those things as positive. As always, you are simply listing things that TNA is doing, and claiming that they are good. Again, just because you think they are good doesn't mean that they are. You can say it's due to "biased opinions" all you want; but every opinion is biased. That's the nature of an opinion.

No.

Most of the points I listed are pure facts, while others are opinions I must admit, you CANNOT deny that both Eric Young and Hernandez have been pushed tremendously and are now two very important parts of the roster, and it all happened in just 2 weeks.

Look, everyone, I'm not trying to get you to all love TNA and deem it as the perfect promotion. All I'm asking is that you actually give them credit when they do something right. Many of you seem to just want to "fit in" with the rest of the group, by hating on the company for no reason. There are bright spots and you can't ignore them forever.