IWF: Learn to give credit where its due

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Most of the points I listed are pure facts, while others are opinions I must admit, you CANNOT deny that both Eric Young and Hernandez have been pushed tremendously and are now two very important parts of the roster, and it all happened in just 2 weeks.

Look, everyone, I'm not trying to get you to all love TNA and deem it as the perfect promotion. All I'm asking is that you actually give them credit when they do something right. Many of you seem to just want to "fit in" with the rest of the group, by hating on the company for no reason. There are bright spots and you can't ignore them forever.

I agree with Axis. How can you say an Eric Young is something good...when you think Eric Young sucks for instance. You mentioned what is currently happening and to you that is good, but to the next guy, it doesn't have to be good. Like previously said, if you don't like Hernandez, you won't find positive his push.
 

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Sarita and Alissa Flash came out of nowhere and they make every other TNA knockout, including Taylor Wilde, look like SHIT
 

Chuck Taylor's Grenade

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Indeed Sarita and Cheerleader Melissa have given the knockouts a needed talent boost.

While TNA is far from perfect they are at least trying to find the perfect balance between promos and good matches. I do like that the faces are actually being allowed to get their heat back from the heels instead of looking like blueberries week after week.
 

chessarmy

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Where was Beer Money, Team 3D, Daniels, and MCMG?

I don't know about Daniels and the Guns, but Beer Money and Team 3D were apparently taken away by the police
 

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Nah, TNA still pretty much sucks. Look, just because they are doing a few things right, and all of this is only your...OPINION, doesnt mean shit other than YOU, chessarmy, think they are good.
 

Wrestling Station

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how much did TNA pay you to talk good about them, Chessarmy? lol.
 

Axis

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No.

Most of the points I listed are pure facts, while others are opinions I must admit, you CANNOT deny that both Eric Young and Hernandez have been pushed tremendously and are now two very important parts of the roster, and it all happened in just 2 weeks.

Look, everyone, I'm not trying to get you to all love TNA and deem it as the perfect promotion. All I'm asking is that you actually give them credit when they do something right. Many of you seem to just want to "fit in" with the rest of the group, by hating on the company for no reason. There are bright spots and you can't ignore them forever.

Here is the flaw in your logic, however. Yes, you are claiming facts that have happened. However, you are jumping to the conclusion that because they happened, they must be good. Yes, it is a fact that Eric Young and Hernandez have been pushed recently. So? That in no way translates into it being entertaining. You are making a seriously logical fallacy in assuming that because something happens that isn't blatantly shitty, then it must be good.
 

chessarmy

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^ Then I"ll leave it up to you to decide whether those events are good or not. What I posted are simply things that I thought would go over with all of you.
 

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Sarita and Alissa Flash came out of nowhere and they make every other TNA knockout, including Taylor Wilde, look like SHIT

That's because luchadoras know how to wrestle. Women's wrestling in the US hasn't been that great for at least 14-15 years. They mix the women wrestlers with the men in Mexico, so they have to be good to stand out.


As far as TNA as a whole, let's just say they are going in the right direction, but it doesn't mean they'll stay that way. I like TNA, but they've had plenty of good ideas only to not follow up on them later. Sure these guys are getting a push, but how long does it really last is the question.

I do think things are going to get interesting though with Jarret gone and new behind the scenes guys coming in.
 

THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps

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If you don't pay attention to the product and base your entire opinion soley on spoilers, without bothering to watch the show or the pay per views, you really DON'T have a valid say in what you think about TNA. Does that stop you from saying anything? Of course not. But also any and all points you make are flawed from the word "go" because you obviously have no interest in developing an unbias opinion on what you think about their current direction.

Obviously by reading the spoilers I am actually paying attention to the product, aren't I? If I was not paying attention I'd not read a single thing about them.

I don't have a valid say? Thanks for informing me of that, as I was unaware. I mean, I didn't know that because I didn't watch something I couldn't bring forth my opinion. Think Big Brother is a trash show? Too bad, you can't say that if you don't watch it. But hey, if you watch it, you most likely think it's good, don't you? So the only people with valid says are the ones who watch the program week in and week out, and thus are the small percentile of people who actually find the product more than an amusing way to laugh at down syndrome sufferers trying to put together a wrestling program.

lmao, I'm not trying to develop an unbiased opinion? Considering I don't watch because what I read in the spoilers is horrible, don't you think I would watch if I found it interesting and thus my opinion is indeed unbiased?
 

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Lance Storm tunes into the product each and every week and depending on the product, he rants for entire paragraphs of anger or praises them incessantly. He has a valid opinion. Because even if the show is crappy, he at least knows whats going on, and is able to develop an opinion based off of his own experiences.

People who read the spoilers however, myself included, get a jaded view of the product. We read "Aww shit, Abyss Vs. Dr. Stevie is still going on? This sucks!" However, if you actually watched the product, you'd maybe see that Abyss Vs. Dr. Stevie was explained logically with a great segment by Dr. Stevie and you comment on how much THEN you agree or disagree with the storyline.

Like I said, you can state your opinion all you want. I never said you couldn't. But that doesn't make your opinion valid. If you don't watch the product you don't frankly deserve a say on what they are doing right or wrong because you already think the product sucks and even if Kurt Angle and AJ Styles put on an amazing 60 minute match, you'd still say it sucks.

That's why your opinion in invalid. Still capable of being expressed, just horribly invalid.
 

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Lance Storm tunes into the product each and every week and depending on the product, he rants for entire paragraphs of anger or praises them incessantly. He has a valid opinion. Because even if the show is crappy, he at least knows whats going on, and is able to develop an opinion based off of his own experiences.

Actually, he recently said he can't watch it because it stresses him out too much....which is hilarious.
 

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Obviously by reading the spoilers I am actually paying attention to the product, aren't I? If I was not paying attention I'd not read a single thing about them.

I don't have a valid say? Thanks for informing me of that, as I was unaware. I mean, I didn't know that because I didn't watch something I couldn't bring forth my opinion. Think Big Brother is a trash show? Too bad, you can't say that if you don't watch it. But hey, if you watch it, you most likely think it's good, don't you? So the only people with valid says are the ones who watch the program week in and week out, and thus are the small percentile of people who actually find the product more than an amusing way to laugh at down syndrome sufferers trying to put together a wrestling program.

lmao, I'm not trying to develop an unbiased opinion? Considering I don't watch because what I read in the spoilers is horrible, don't you think I would watch if I found it interesting and thus my opinion is indeed unbiased?


Really I have to agree with the other guys. While you do of course have a right to voice your opinion, it really doesn't hold anything during a discussion.

It's no different than you reading on ESPN.com about who won a football game then trying to tell someone how good/bad it was. You don't know how good or bad it was because you didn't watch it, you just know who won and the score.

And really, if you read the spoilers why would you want to watch it? You already know what's going to happen. Just curious, do you also read the spoilers for Smackdown aswell? If so do you watch it? And be honest, don't tell me something just to try and back yourself up....Not that you would do that, of course :)