Is Swagger done with WWE?
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Did they really not? What a joke. Of all the shit teams lol. That gimmick was over like rover. Did they ever do a split/feud between the two? God WWE books with both hands up their ass
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Swagger has done so little for so long that most wouldn't even notice his departure if he did leave. He can go in the ring, but he's about as dull and uncharismatic of a person as you'll find, and there probably isn't a character or gimmick idea that could possibly revive his career at this point. I wouldn't miss him.
Cesaro joined Paul Heyman and then, for some reason, they inserted RVD into their feud and made it a 3-way at Extreme Rules IIRC. So we never got a proper blowoff to that, which was completely stupid.
And then Colter took time off because his granddaughter got killed in a hit and run and Swagger was taken off TV as a result
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Why not say that then? Most would agree that he has been booked into irrelevance. But you said he was horrible and boring in the ring. Swagger can go in between the ropes, that is just the unbiased reality of it. He has size, strength, agility and has been wrestling all of his life. The combination of attributes allows him to do things in the ring most others simply cannot. I can point to any number of singles or tag matches that objectively show he is a really good ring worker.
I think he is lost in today's WWE landscape where real characters are more in the forefront. He would have been better of in the 80s playing some whacky over the top character. He's a goofy guy with a lisp and hilarious facial expressions.
That's not to say the guy did not try his darndest to make it work as a character. Remember his original run on Smackdown?
He was given the old Kurt Angle athletic goofball gimmick and made the best of it. But as has been said, he's not a natural promo. He should have someone talk for him or have short, pre taped interview style promos like Brock/UFC fighters (parallels between this guy and Brock are a few).
But let's remember. Jack Swagger being a character gave Chavo Guerrero his best WWE run ever.
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Well maybe if you didn't apply some stupid logic, I wouldn't have had to mention that angle
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He does the ankle lock, he wears a singlet, he's our American hero, he does like only suplexes and submissions, and he portrays himself as just a wrestler, basically. All the same qualities that Kurt possessed and it's clear swaggers image was mainly based on Kurt. He might as well be dojng angle slams, dude. Hell, even stop spot just said he was based off angle.
Even if he's not based off angle, which he is, he still sucks.
Dumb logic still? Or are you not getting it, friend?
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Yes, your logic is still asinine. There's a difference between basing and copying. By definition, base is using something as a foundation. This means you can change various things to make it completely different. Copying is imitation of the style and behaviour. And from what I understand of your "logic" every wrestler ever who wears a singlet, has a patriotic American hero gimmick, uses the ankle lock, has a background in amateur wrestling, or any combination of those 4 elements MUST be copying Kurt Angle.He does the ankle lock, he wears a singlet, he's our American hero, he does like only suplexes and submissions, and he portrays himself as just a wrestler, basically. All the same qualities that Kurt possessed and it's clear swaggers image was mainly based on Kurt. He might as well be dojng angle slams, dude. Hell, even stop spot just said he was based off angle.
Even if he's not based off angle, which he is, he still sucks.
Dumb logic still? Or are you not getting it, friend?
You tried buddy.
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Kurt Angle was based off of Bob Backlund. Your point is?He does the ankle lock, he wears a singlet, he's our American hero, he does like only suplexes and submissions, and he portrays himself as just a wrestler, basically. All the same qualities that Kurt possessed and it's clear swaggers image was mainly based on Kurt. He might as well be dojng angle slams, dude. Hell, even stop spot just said he was based off angle.
Even if he's not based off angle, which he is, he still sucks.
Dumb logic still? Or are you not getting it, friend?
Also. Jack Swagger is fucking awesome
It'd be sad if Swagger left as his skill and in-ring ability with how things seem to be heading could lead to at leat upper mid card. But how much damage has been done in the past? It'd be some effort and push to get him over. But for me Cesaro was down and out at one point and is now a hot commodity so who knows? Things are looking brighter for legit wrestlers and it seems even a casual fan can appreciate some good in ring ability at the minute.
He needs to stay tbh, WWE need to put him in the title picture again. Not for the main title obvs but either united states or intercontinental. I would like him to try go to NXT but honestly, I wouldn't be able to stand him in NXT so na let him stay up on the main card.