Houston Shooting Discussion

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Fiction is always more fun to speculate on than facts.

 

[Crayo]

Each of them are different... different motives, different circumstances. As the NRA says, the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Almost quoted that post as well.

 

[Swift]

the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is marijuana.

 

[Danielson]

Trying and doing are two separate deals. Look up the studies, Weed is nothing compared to the damage liquor does to your body, and if it is taxed and run up to a government protected standard, you would also have a lot less people underage trying the drugs, since the availability would hinder the low end drug dealer from trying, not to mention penalties. I see nothing but huge gain from legalization, especially the fact that prison money could be turned into health care money and we could keep drug addicts off the streets, while putting them into facilities that could actually improve their physical/mental wellbeing.

Also who cares if people who are adults smoke weed, or even shoot heroin? If you think americans are so corrupt in their morals that legalization will create an environment full of drug addicts who contribute nothing to society, i pity you brother. If anything, the govt should make it legal, tax and give penalties (like CO and CA do) and stack paper, while letting people do what they want with their own bodies.

You pity me? You took one thing I said and went completly off topic. All I said was that if drugs were legal, more people would do them. So i'm not sure why you gave me that rant, followed by you saying you pity me. I never said I cared if people smoke weed, or even shot heroin either. You just made something up in your head and ran with it. Some of my best friends smoke MJ, and I can say for certain that a lot had to stop due to jobs. If it were legal, more would smoke it. I also said that, if this method was applied to guns, that it'd still be possible to obatin them. Just a hell of a lot harder. soooooo Haha please brother, save your pity for someone who gives a shit.

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[Senhor Perfect]

I agree with the point that if it's legal more people would try it, it's obvious. If the gov't considers it legal then there's no reason no to try it. I don't do drugs at all, but I drink a bit. Who knows if that would be different if I grew up in a world where drugs were legal and promoted like alcohol?

 

[Crayo]

Trying something harmless because it's legal isn't an issue, so why are people debating something like that in a shooting thread?

 

[Danielson]

I agree with the point that if it's legal more people would try it, it's obvious. If the gov't considers it legal then there's no reason no to try it. I don't do drugs at all, but I drink a bit. Who knows if that would be different if I grew up in a world where drugs were legal and promoted like alcohol?

I don't do them either. In America we had prohibition, which was an alcohol ban. Many people stopped drinking entriely to avoid prosectution. It goes without saying, that people still obtained it illegally if they really wanted it. The point i'm trying to push is to ban assault rifles, because not only would it make it be harder to obtain, it might prevent even one mass shooting. Which is a total win.

 

[Danielson]

Trying something harmless because it's legal isn't an issue, so why are people debating something like that in a shooting thread?

Well my original thought was that, say for example drugs were legal. A lot more would do it, or obtain it just because it's legal. If you make it illegal for assault rifles, like drugs, it might deter a few folks from obtaining them.

I never was never trying to debate wheter or not drugs should be legal. I was just giving an example. Many of my friends don't smoke MJ anymore simply to avoid losing their jobs. Whether or not I think it's harmless wasn't the point.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

When discussing "drugs" there shoul be a clear differentiation between real drugs that are extremely dangerous and weed.

Also your comparison Danny, while nearly similar on the surface, really is bringing up oranges in an apples thread. How many people would/wouldn't try hard drugs if they were legal is a completely independent variable from how man people would be buying guns if they were illegal. The fact that you backed your hypothetical comparison by using marijuana as your straw man example is another hilariously different topic with and of itself.


Getting rid of all assault rifles being legal doesn't come close to solving this countries atrocious issues with guns, but it is a damn fine start. Anyone saying otherwise needs a reality check. And yes, that is the tip of the steps that need to be taken iceberg, but you can't run a marathon without taking that first step. So for the love of joe Pesci can we take the obvious first step already?

 

[Crayo]

Getting rid of all assault rifles being legal doesn't come close to solving this countries atrocious issues with guns, but it is a damn fine start. Anyone saying otherwise needs a reality check. And yes, that is the tip of the steps that need to be taken iceberg, but you can't run a marathon without taking that first step. So for the love of joe Pesci can we take the obvious first step already?

Agreed.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Don't you think the first step is to modify the second ammendment. Do people really still need to bear arms in this day and age?

 

[Lockard 23]

Weed shouldn't even be illegal. It's so harmless that it shouldn't even be considered a drug, not when legal 'drugs' like cigarettes and alcohol are available (which do a million times more harm than weed.) Weed also sparks the creative part of your brain if you smoke it (scientific fact.)

And who cares about the Second Amendment. The Constitution isn't any different than laws, it should be open to change as well.

 

[Crayo]

Don't you think the first step is to modify the second ammendment. Do people really still need to bear arms in this day and age?

It's annoying when gun-enthusiasts bring up an amendment made in 1791 and use it as part of their argument, times have significantly moved on. So yeah, it definitely needs to be modified.

Weed shouldn't even be illegal. It's so harmless that it shouldn't even be considered a drug, not when legal 'drugs' like cigarettes and alcohol are available (which do a million times more harm than weed.) Weed also sparks the creative part of your brain if you smoke it (scientific fact.)

Good job making this about weed again, lol.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

The Constitution isn't any different than laws, it should be open to change as well.

Exactly, it should be changed as soon as possible.