ColeMiner said:Ball boy was in all fairness taking his time to give it back but then Hazard pushed him over, so in my eyes why wouldn't you do the same, I just said to Ryan if I was the ballboy and Boro were in that situation, I would have held it for way longer, and I can confidently say, so would most football fans, Hazard's just lost it, and done it in the most idiotic way.
Bobby Ray said:He pushed him over? I have only seen it once, but from what I recall he seemed to fall over rather easily and then just sit on the ball. You are in the semi-final and two nil down, wouldn't you try your best to get the ball back? I'm not defending Hazard at all, I think the ballboy is a legend, but I don't condone bias and unsporting actions.
ColeMiner said:Yeah he went down easy but Hazard basically pushed him, the ball boy was wrong in doing it but once again I would have done exactly the same if my team were in that situation, and if I was the ball boys dad I would have been bloody proud of him, I don't condone cheating at all but in that situation you do what is needed to win your team the match imo.
Bobby Ray said:"I don't condone cheating at all but in that situation you do what is needed to win your team the match imo."
That's rather contradicting. That is condoning it.
ColeMiner said:I don't agree, as I don't think he was cheating in the slightest, the Swansea keeper was holding onto the ball for ages all game but is he branded a cheat? No, players stand on each others toes all game as they know it will wind them up, are they branded cheats? No, a ball boy holds onto the ball after being pushed over and gets a kicking for his actions and he is now a cheat? Makes no sense whatsoever to me, players time waste every single game but nothing is ever said so this is any different?
Bobby Ray said:I didn't necessarily label him as a cheat, but holding onto the ball to time-waste is an unnecessary and illegal advantage over your opponents. Goalkeepers have six seconds to kick the ball and toe-stamping is inevitable, professional fouls are inevitable -- they are both meant with punishments by the football law. Your ball boy however holding onto the ball is an outside influence, I can see why the players especially would be annoyed with his actions.
In their point of view, someone who isn't involved with the game whatsoever is having an important involvement illegally. It's much different than your opponents bending rules and time-wasting than a stranger doing it, in my opinion anyway. I play football weekly myself, if one of the away fans held on to the ball to create an advantage for their team then I would be more annoyed than I would be if the opposing players were doing the same thing, I think most competitive athletes would to be honest.
ColeMiner said:The kid picked the ball up and literally seconds later was bundled over by a professional footballer playing for the over team, how do we know when he picked up the ball he had any intention of time wasting?
Zach said:which ball boys are probably instructed to do
Bobby Ray said:Nope, they're not.
Sorry ColeMiner but I can't justify a reply to that, especially as you're demanding an apology from what was an obvious accident.