If your trying to say Undertaker & Kane are better wrestlers than Joe, you have to be brain dead.
You wanna know why Joe is better lets look at the facts shall we?
3 of the last 4 five star matches; you wanna know who has been involved in them Samoa Joe. Just to clarify they were Joe Vs Kobashi, Joe Vs Punk II and Joe Vs AJ Vs Daniels. Kane's never put on a freakin 5 star match in his life and Undertaker put on one and that was against Michaels in the HIAC match.
Wow, Joe had five star matches against the best wrestlers in the world, what a fucking surprise. When Joe can carry guys like Khali and Mark Henry to a good match let me know. Plus in Joe/Kobashi all Joe did was get chopped like a million times, In Joe/Punk II all he did was take headlocks for the first thirty minutes. Yeah neither of those deserve 5 stars imo.
Matches are always going to have 2 or more people in them, to try and say Joe doesn't derserve it because it had other people in the match is the most moronic thing i've ever heard. When was the last time you seen someone put on a 5 star match with themselves lol!
How is Undertaker better in the ring? i don't get it, Joe is alot more versatile
in his moveset then the undertaker but you try and say you don't care about it lol, he's still better; amongst the petty high school insults.
Once agian Joe's wrestling in ROH, against the best wrestlers in the world, Taker's wrestling against Batista. It's a lot harder to put on a five star match with Batista then guys like oh I dunno Daniels/Styles/Kobashi/Punk.......
Well no shit Joe's more versitile, he's 27. Taker's like 45. Just the fact that Taker's able to compete with the versitility of a guy a little less then half his age is a testement to how good Taker is.......
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Joe was so awesome in ROH that even when he was a heel the people cheered for him.
Wow Joe gets cheered in a fed where disposition doesn't really matter *cough*AmDrag*cough*
Why? Cuz his hardhit style was something the people had never seen in the US.
Yes, because prior to Joe there wasn't a single big guy in wrestling. Yeah everyone knows guys like Taker started wrestling after Joe
But one thing I do agree with. Joe gets owned by Taker mic skill wise. But still,Kane and Taker are both so damn slow, while Joe is a damn fast guy for his size.
I'm just going to point out that you said that Taker's better on the mic. And yeah Joe is faster because he's like half Taker's age, and he hasn't been wrestling for like 18 years
I dont wanna watch some slow ass giant use fake moves,like well I dont know....hmm maybe like Oldschool. That move so sucks.
Oh yeah because moves like the Tombstone Piledriver, Triangle Choke, Big Boot, Chokeslam etc all are SOOO fake. And besides Old Schools a cool move, if you want to bitch you should be bitching about the gayness that is the Muscle Buster
Joe can sell way better than both Taker and Kane combined.
Yeah Joe does sell better, simply because he isn't supposed to be an unstoppable zombie/monster. If Taker sold every hit it would kill his character. If you want to see Taker sell, just watch when he dropped the title to Edge.
The only two things Joe lacks are mic skills and a great gimmick. Well,nah he has a great gimmick, a big fat Samoan guy whos gonna fuck you up. And WWE had to copy him. Thats how great Joe is.
Oh yeah a fat guy that's gonna fuck you up, real creative. Yeah because everyone knows that Joe was the first "bad ass". And Umaga's a savage, not a fat ass.
And on the crowd reaction thing, I've never heard Takers gonna fuck you up,or Takers gonna kill you. Never heard Kanes gonna kill you. But I have heard Joes gonna kill you. The fans love Joe to death.
Wow, so you're saying that Joe can out pop Taker? One
bong can get a louder pop then Joe can ever hope to acheive.
I now see that this board has a horde of WWE marks roaming around,claiming their opinions as fact. And I guess if theyt like seeing the same match over and over again "goughtakergough" fiune,do so,but dont come telling me how awesome it is to watch the same match over and over and over again.
Where did this come from?