General Chit-Chat Thread - No Spoilers

[Grimoire Lenin]

Yeah it’s ok if the face gets over in the segment every now and again.

It shouldn't just be every now and again. Faces by design should be getting over all the time. The only reason Heels should go over is if they're being set up to be major players down the line *or* if they are over with the crowd as a hateable person.

 

[Sabretooth]

It shouldn't just be every now and again. Faces by design should be getting over all the time. The only reason Heels should go over is if they're being set up to be major players down the line *or* if they are over with the crowd as a hateable person.

again this is where the line is tricky. You have to get babyface sympathy but not to the point where they look stupid

 

[Leon TrotSky]

People say so often that Vince, Kevin Dunn, Prichard, Johnny Ace could go and WWE could be better. It wouldn't. There's no way WWE can recover, and that's literally due to the mindset of the company

 

[Comrade Khan]

It shouldn't just be every now and again. Faces by design should be getting over all the time. The only reason Heels should go over is if they're being set up to be major players down the line *or* if they are over with the crowd as a hateable person.

yeah thats one thing wwe really does badly fsr. they just dont let faces be faces who win. its like john cena happened and now everyone must be 50/50 and its fucking weird to me lol

 

[Comrade Khan]

but ive just accepted it as how they do it, and not for me

 

[Leon TrotSky]

And it's a company that won't go away, because it's making record profits repackaging and reselling the time it used to be good

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

again this is where the line is tricky. You have to get babyface sympathy but not to the point where they look stupid

You get Sympathy for the Face by giving them an angle in which their entire build is, "I'm gonna get back at those dirty damn bastards!"

 

[Comrade Khan]

You get Sympathy for the Face by giving them an angle in which their entire build is, "I'm gonna get back at those dirty damn bastards!"

yeh exactly. which is always good shit. just that wwe is bad at following thru lol

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Imagine if you will, and I bet Jeff will hate me using this example, but the entire proposed build for Brian Pillman vs. The Midnight Express. They injure Tom Zenk and now Brian Pillman has to face off against the ME alone, with Jim Cornette taunting and making fun of Pillman. They are targeting his throat and neck, but Pillman stills fucking wins by sheer force of will. *That* is how you get a face over, you pin him against the odds but he continually overcomes.

 

[Comrade Khan]

 

[Comrade Khan]

lolwut

 

[Leon TrotSky]

It'll just trudge along, making stupid money forever whilst the talent drain continues.

 

[Sabretooth]

Yeah I wonder if WWE will ever get truly good again

 

[Comrade Khan]

Imagine if you will, and I bet Jeff will hate me using this example, but the entire proposed build for Brian Pillman vs. The Midnight Express. They injure Tom Zenk and now Brian Pillman has to face off against the ME alone, with Jim Cornette taunting and making fun of Pillman. They are targeting his throat and neck, but Pillman stills fucking wins by sheer force of will. *That* is how you get a face over, you pin him against the odds but he continually overcomes.

nah its a fine example of booking that pretty much always works.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

It likely will once Vince dies and the stocks plummet following it.