General Chit-Chat Thread: A New Beginning

[Chris]

Civ doing the work

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

He's a cultural icon in the Middle East, but all the stories about him are mostly trye.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

*true

 

[Chris]

I skimmed his wiki once not too long ago but don't really remember them

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

There's the hilarious story where he was sieging a castle where a noble couple had just been wed, and he joked to his soldiers to leave the couple alone when they stormed it.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

He was also very good friends with Richard the Lionheart

 

[Chris]

Charles "the hammer" Martel sounds like a wrestler name but not someone that lived in the 700s

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Martel actually just translates to "Hammer" iirc

 

[Chris]

That makes sense, I don't think he was referred to like that at the time lol it was more "Charles Martel, The Hammer" so that might be how it got translated

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Yeah it could just be a mistranslation over the centuries that led to it being that way

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Could be at the time in old Frankish he was just "Karl Pepinson, Kuninges de Frankes, de Martel"

 

[Chris]

Yeah reading more Martel was just a nickname

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Of course in Latin it'd have been translated somewhat to "Carolus et Malleus, Dux Francorum"

 

[Chris]

Didn't spend a lot of time on the hammer, went to Pepin the short and now about to get to Charlemagne

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Charlemagne is another instance where his sobriquet is more widely known than his regular name lol