WrestleMania For those who think Rock is winning clean...

[Super Saiyan Goku]

So they're going to put someone who is leaving after WM over the biggest star they have for a bit of trivia? Rock gains nothing from it, Cena looks bad and does such the current product.

And that a good think b/c it TRUE! LOL 1:! Cena going to turn heel the next day so it does make sesne!

 

[seabs]

And that a good think b/c it TRUE! LOL 1:! Cena going to turn heel the next day so it does make sesne!

The biggest heel turn they have currently occurs on Raw?

 

[Crayo]

The only way he'd "turn heel" on RAW is if Wrestlemania ended with him physically assaulting Rock to no end (which I don't see happening - he's a movie star), then the next night he "explains his actions" and performs a heel speech. But technically he would have turned heel the day before so yeah, I don't see it happening on RAW.

The most likely outcome is Cena wins cleanly and they shake hands. I was just being optimistic when I predicted a non-clean ending to Wrestlemania - in reality, it's highly likely Cena will overcome Rock and then WWE will go back to what it was.

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

The only way he'd officially "turn heel" on RAW is if Wrestlemania ended with him physically assaulting Rock to no end (which I don't see happening - he's a movie star), then the next night he "explains his actions" and performs a heel speech. But technically he would have turned heel the day before so yeah, I don't see it happening on RAW.

The most likely outcome is Cena wins cleanly and they shake hands. I was just being optimistic when I predicted a non-clean ending to Wrestlemania - in reality, it's highly likely Cena will overcome Rock and then WWE will go back to what it was.

NO WAY! He trun heel like Stone Cold do did to The Rock at WM17! Ownly is that Cena will lose and will be and ungealful and then the next day turn on the fans and turn heel!

 

[Snowman1]

I'm sorry but that would never happen and rightfully so. I think people are forgetting Cena is the #1 guy... he is The Rock of the current era. He is the Stone Cold Steve Austin of the current era. Someone returning after 7 years without wrestling beats him at Wrestlemania - that doesn't make your #1 guy look good now? All it does is scream "Attitude era is better than current era", which is not what Vince or anyone wants to hear at WWE.

I'm interested in why you think Rock will win though as you said it in another thread I think (the prediction thread?).

I did. Cena is the undisputed #1 guy of the current era, just as you said. If Rock puts him over, nothing will really happen. He'll still be the undisputed top guy, Cena fans will still love the guy, and Cena haters will still think Rock > Cena. Cena will come back the next night on top, as the unbeatable Superman, as the fans still boo like crazy. Nothing changes, nothing happens, and one of the biggest matches in WWE history didn't accomplish a thing.

We discuss this in the TNA thread all the time. When pushing a face gets rejected, you let him take a few losses in a way that builds sympathy towards the character. One of you (I think it was Hoss) posted earlier that they are discussing more than one Rock/Cena. So a clean win for the Rock, which sets up Cena being a legitimate underdog going into Rock/Cena II (hopefully at Summerslam) would do much more for Cena than Cena simply winning here.

Which probably means Cena will go over.

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

Yet but Rock is a face and he at the same level as cena! So that will be no SUPERMAN BS FOR CENA! As for how I see Cena recover after HE DOES LOSE TO THE ROCK CLEANLY! He will turn HEEL LIKE I HAVE SAID ALONG!

 

[Crayo]

I did. Cena is the undisputed #1 guy of the current era, just as you said. If Rock puts him over, nothing will really happen. He'll still be the undisputed top guy, Cena fans will still love the guy, and Cena haters will still think Rock > Cena. Cena will come back the next night on top, as the unbeatable Superman, as the fans still boo like crazy. Nothing changes, nothing happens, and one of the biggest matches in WWE history didn't accomplish a thing.

We discuss this in the TNA thread all the time. When pushing a face gets rejected, you let him take a few losses in a way that builds sympathy towards the character. One of you (I think it was Hoss) posted earlier that they are discussing more than one Rock/Cena. So a clean win for the Rock, which sets up Cena being a legitimate underdog going into Rock/Cena II (hopefully at Summerslam) would do much more for Cena than Cena simply winning here.

Which probably means Cena will go over.

That's an IWC approach. Casuals do not think like that. They think "Who's the best, Rock or Cena, we'll find out at Wrestlemania". Cena loses, then it says Rock is better than him and the previous era is stronger than the current era. That doesn't result in more people tuning in to see the product at all.

I'm telling you now, unless Cena turns heel, he will not lose clean. I seriously think we'll be seeing a clean Cena win and that's that.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Uh oh. My negativity is rubbing off on poor impressionable Crayo again. Sorry guys.

 

[Zamorakian]

Everytime Crayo predicts something it turns out to be the other wise even though he somehow has a point but still I'm stuck and I do not know who's gonna win and to be honest we'll have to wait until' Wrestlemania to figure this out because this match is completely unpredictable.

I mean come on he only scored three points in the previous PPV predictions thread.

 

[Crayo]

Everytime Crayo predicts something it turns out to be the other wise

:facepalm:

 

[Snowman1]

That's an IWC approach. Casuals do not think like that. They think "Who's the best, Rock or Cena, we'll find out at Wrestlemania". Cena loses, then it says Rock is better than him and the previous era is stronger than the current era. That doesn't result in more people tuning in to see the product at all.

I'm telling you now, unless Cena turns heel, he will not lose clean. I seriously think we'll be seeing a clean Cena win and that's that.

That is an IWC approach, trying to let the match accomplish something. A Cena win shouldn't boost viewership much, maybe some casuals will think people will think this era's more talented than the AE. But I can't see perception changing that drastically among the casuals.

If they can get Rock for Summerslam, Survivor Series, or maybe even 29, Rock should win this, and Cena should go over then to actually overcome the odds as well as everything you said. If there's just one match, you know Cena will win clean. There's no heel turn coming.

 

[Crayo]

The way it's been built up, I really can't see a clean Rock clean win (without a heel turn or something big). I'm not saying I wouldn't want that, my ideal scenario is Rock winning and Cena turning heel after he's "ruined his life". But it just won't happen. However, because it's in Miami, Rock's hometown, I can't really imagine WWE ending it on a hand shake Cena clean win either, they know the crowd would boo the shit out of them if that happened. This is why I'm excited as hell, I can't predict it, I just have guestimations.

 

[Snowman1]

This is why I'm excited as hell, I can't predict it, I just have guestimations.

You can definitely say that about this year's 'Mania as a whole. The PPV itself, albeit unimpactful and poorly built, should be pretty good.

 

[Crayo]

You can definitely say that about this year's 'Mania as a whole. The PPV itself, albeit unimpactful and poorly built, should be pretty good.

Nah, I can predict most of the others I feel, most of us here have put the same predictions down. It's just Jericho/Punk and Rock/Cena which I have no idea, just pure guestimations based on logic.

 

[nealverma]

I actually think its possible for the rock to win clean, because WWE knows that the rock brings ratings, and now that he's back, this wrestlemania is getting so much hype, WWE needs the rock and i don't see the rock returning to wrestlemania after 8 years to lose to someone he sees as a kid, Cena winning the match by cheating and turning heel would be a great idea for cena's career, although i don't see it happening because The Rock isn't the kind of person to come back after 8 years just to put Cena over