Extreme Rules "Extreme Rules Falls on Rusev Day" WWE Championship Match

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Kayfabe is dead. No denying that. If anybody doesn't think that then they are dumb. Kayfabe is dead.

But by your logic. Just because Kayfabe is dead, wrestlers can't have characters? wtf? Then what's the point of professional wrestling in 2018? Kayfabe is dead but that doesn't mean wrestlers can't keep kayfabe and portray their characters. It's just that everybody knows it's not real. Kayfabe is dead in the sense that nobody watches wrestling and believes its legit.
So just because "everyone knows kayfabe is dead" the real world and kayfabe world are suddenly one and the same? So if the twitter account of say, The Joker, starts tweeting about the latest 30 Seconds to Mars single, that's just totally cool because everyone knows the Joker is a fictional character, right? Its not like Jared Leto can easily create a separate personal Twitter account to distinguish "the man from the character" after all. Oh, but this is wrestling and it's totally different cuz kayfabe (which is dead, as you stated) right?
 

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So just because "everyone knows kayfabe is dead" the real world and kayfabe world are suddenly one and the same?
Did not say that....I'm saying they are seperate worlds because kayfabe is dead. If kayfabe was still alive I would think that the two worlds are the same cuz im a outsider. But I don't. I recognise they are different worlds. When the fuck did I even suggest that they wearn't?

Its not like Jared Leto can easily create a separate personal Twitter account to distinguish "the man from the character" after all.
Never said he couldn't....

wtf are you talking about?
 

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I'm not getting in on this kayfabe is dead junk since I don't honestly care for the argument.

-He had a couple of good ass matches with Cena
- Had a good ass match with Swagger in 2014. Flag match at Summerslam was really good
- Good ass match with Big E in 2014
- Owens vs Rusev vs Cesaro was a good ass match
- Fun good ass opener with Roman at HIAC 2016
All of those were strictly okay with the exception of the Reigns match. The issues I laid out earlier were just as prevalent then as they are now.

So what if it's the vast majority. The vast majority doesn't matter. Who cares what the Ascension have for breakfast? But when a title changes hands off tv it obviously means something, it's a title change ffs lol. Who cares about the vast majority? I didn't even debate that.

Stuff happens outside of TV that matters. They announced Kurt Angle's return to the ring not on TV ffs. Stuff outside WWE has a impact on WWE programming. Important events off TV is important. Guesse why? It's because they are important. Important stuff can happen off TV.
My point went so far over your head it landed on the moon. I didn't say that important things don't happen off TV, but rather that important things rarely happen off TV, which is the truth. If it isn't on television, then odds are it won't matter. That's my point. I can count on one hand how many times I've heard WWE bring up house shows on TV.

I don't see how you can dismiss his character because he isn't as eastern european then some randoms on the internet.
If normal people show more personality than a person whose job is to show personality, then there's a very clear problem. You claimed that he shows some "Eastern European personality" that magically makes him have a character. It doesn't, because if it did, then he should be on equal footing with other people with that same trait. Actually, no, he should be above them since, again, his job is to act. Amateurs shouldn't be above professionals.

Rusev has a character it's the reason he has a cult following in the first place.
His character is screaming "MACHKA!" There's no greater depth to it. The deepest his character has ever been was whenever he championed the Vladimir Putin fanclub for a year.
 

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All of those were strictly okay with the exception of the Reigns match. The issues I laid out earlier were just as prevalent then as they are now.
I think their good. Ya know what i mean? ennit. Those matches may not have clicked with you. You can tell Rusev's wrestling ability is respected. Undertaker wanted to work with him.

My point went so far over your head it landed on the moon. I didn't say that important things don't happen off TV, but rather that important things rarely happen off TV, which is the truth. If it isn't on television, then odds are it won't matter. That's my point. I can count on one hand how many times I've heard WWE bring up house shows on TV.
No it didn't go over my head. I'm saying I agree with you. Most things that are not on TV aren't important, but some are. You originally said (which since then you have changed your mind) That if it is not on TV it's not important. Which just isn't the case. And I glad we agree. The point is, stuff outside of WWE DOES effect programming. There is a whole list of examples that show that.

If normal people show more personality than a person whose job is to show personality, then there's a very clear problem. You claimed that he shows some "Eastern European personality" that magically makes him have a character. It doesn't, because if it did, then he should be on equal footing with other people with that same trait. Actually, no, he should be above them since, again, his job is to act. Amateurs shouldn't be above professionals.
Fuck knows. I know that I have more personality then most of the wresters on WWE TV because I don't have to do shitty promos and get told to do stupid stuff. So I can definitely see why someone would think that a 'normal person' would have more personality then someone who is playing a character on TV. Not hard to believe as 'normal people' have depth to their characters cuz they are real people and not restricted by WWE. That's why real life shit is more interesting than anything we can imagine sometimes.

I think its a case of us consuming different parts of the product. I understand why Rusev has gained such a cult personality even before Rusev Day because of his personality. I can see why you haven't detected that. As everyone views WWE differently. There is at least 6 hours of WWE TV a week so not every bit of content is going to resonate with everyone. Not everyone is going to have the same perception of every wrestler. Me and you have a different perception of Rusev. I'm not going to deny that you haven't seen much of his character. All I can do is explain my perception. Since yer know wrestling is subjective and all.
 

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Who would have thought that they actually would give Rusev a push to the main event? Even if it may be for one PPV? After surviving a Gauntlet match on the Smackdown after Money in the Bank, everyone's favourite Bulgarian will now face everyone's favourite Redneck for the WWE Championship. Although now there is no stipulation announced, as it is Extreme Rules, there is always the chance of one being announced in the build-up. While this match may appear to be predictable, with AJ Styles likely keeping the belt at least until Summerslam, this could be a match where Rusev has a break-out performance. It is his first World title match unless I am mistaken, he is paired with one of the best workers in the world, he's already great in the ring, and if there is a stipulation attached which both men work well with, then this could be an entertaining match. Hell, I'd love for it to be the main event since Smackdown hasn't got the main event spot on a dual-branded PPV since the return of the split.

So what'cha think? Looking forward to the match? Will there be an Extreme stipulation attached? Will RuRu pull the upset? Regardless, Happy Rusev Day!

:rusev:
lol you had me at “everyone’s favorite redneck”
 

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This is Rusev's chance to have a career best match as long as Road Dogg doesn't ruin it with overbooked finishes.
 

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This is Rusev's chance to have a career best match as long as Road Dogg doesn't ruin it with overbooked finishes.
Yh fuck Road Dogg. I mean he is the only person we know the name of so he gets all the hate. He probably doesn't deserve all the hate. But anything bad happens, lets all blame Road Dogg for it.
 

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Yh fuck Road Dogg. I mean he is the only person we know the name of so he gets all the hate. He probably doesn't deserve all the hate. But anything bad happens, lets all blame Road Dogg for it.
....he's the head writer of Smackdown. Any overbooked finish has to get approved by Road Dogg. So yes, we shall blame him because he approved it.
 

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This is one of my favorite decisions WWE's made in awhile. I personally don't really care about Rusev and I don't think I'm going to bother watching the match but this feels like a real bone thrown to the fans. Styles is obviously going over here, they already plant seeds for Joe vs. Styles at SummerSlam during the Nakamura feud and WWE doesn't give a damn about breaking into that Bulgarian market. With the Nakamura feud over and saving the big match of Joe vs. Styles for SummerSlam, we've got a filler match for Extreme Rules. They could've easily thrown anyone in here, I'm glad they decided to throw in perhaps the most over guy on the roster. Or at least the most over gimmick of Rusev Day. Even though he'll lose, this isn't going to feel like a middle finger like at Mania, this is going to feel like a reward. A WWE Championship match against the best in the company.

You forgot to wish X good luck in their future endeavors.

In Beavie's defense, so did WWE when they released Cass.
 
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....he's the head writer of Smackdown. Any overbooked finish has to get approved by Road Dogg. So yes, we shall blame him because he approved it.

He was moved over to head writer of SDL around the time of the Superstar Screw Up last year. Hard for me to not see that as a coincidence.

I've cooled off on Rusev with the whole Rusev Day thing (mostly because I think there's a big time Christian Syndrome bit going on here, much of his face heat is that he's deserving of a push he isn't getting, now that he's getting one we'll see... as well as SDL being bursting with talent) but still this dude's been overdue for a push for years.
And hot damn, is it good to FINALLY see someone grab the brass ring and actually be rewarded for it.
And winning a multi-man match in a way that makes WWE feel so much less manufactured. Love this. More stuff like this, WWE, please!