Ever witnessed miracles that have changed your perspective?

[BaraaKhalaf92]

It also depends on your definition of miracle. Lots of people who've witnessed the birth of a baby would say that's a miracle.

The ability of waking up every morning is a miracle in itself.

Great points there, most of the things we see are miracles, but I guess Crayo meant things that are supernatural or doesn't happen so often and only seen rarely, things that are simply unbelievable to most people..

 

[Swift]

This thread in a nutshell;

 

[Crayo]

Didn't expect such generic answers. By miracle I mean supernatural events -- that obviously don't appear often -- that have or could have changed your perspective on life. Witnessing a child be born who was destined for death could be one of those miracles.

 

[Donald Trump_]

Didn't expect such generic answers. By miracle I mean supernatural events -- that obviously don't appear often -- that have or could have changed your perspective on life. Witnessing a child be born who was destined for death could be one of those miracles.

 

[Swift]

That's obviously the work of SATAN!

 

[Jose Tortilla]

Seeing some face's, looks, behaviour or things about people on the street who really look like passed relatives.

 

[Donald Trump_]

Man almost gets hit by train.

 

[Lockard 23]

Okay, but what is the explanation for a blind-women from birth describing what she looked like to the doctors?

I pulled this from somewhere:

LOSS OF BLOOD FLOW
"One of the most common causes of near-death experiences is fainting," Nelson says. This makes it a good example of when near-death experiences can happen when the person experiencing the NDE is in fact nowhere near death. Researchers have shown that a loss of oxygen flow to the eye will cause tunnel vision. Oxygen deprivation--and even just a sense of fear--can cause the oxygen to stop flowing, and both of those are symptomatic of dying. In Nelson's research, simply fainting was enough to cause several of the effects related to near-death experiences, like a feeling of being out of your own body, or a sense of euphoria.

CHEMICALS RELEASED
A surge of steroids, epinephrine, and adrenaline are released in the body during situations where it's near death, Parnia points out. It could explain the feeling of euphoria, and some of the stranger, hallucinatory effects. It's been suggested that Ketamine, which is released when animals are under attack, could produce similar effects. One of the first theories on near-death experiences, in fact, was that the psychedelic Dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, was released in the brain as soon as it realized it was dying, but that's somewhat speculative: The only way to really test something like that, Nelson says, is to give someone the drug and compare its effects to near-death experiences. Chemicals could very well be be a factor; it's just not an easily proven one, compared to, say, fainting and blood loss.

IT'S A FORM OF REM SLEEP
REM sleep is the type of sleep most closely associated with dreams. Nelson has proposed that, close to death, we enter a type of REM sleep. Put simply, he says, the brain is still functioning enough to realize that it's in danger, despite being asleep. That creates a sort of sleep-state that's spiked with a fight-or-flight response: a form of lucid dreaming, where we're still aware of the situation but are not completely conscious. The sensation of floating around yourself--an out-of-body experience--is consistent with lucid dreamers.

MEMORY IS TRIGGERED
This is only one symptom of near-death experiences, but it's a common one: People report experiencing memories of loved ones or other moments from their past. Research has shown, Nelson says, that our sense of memory kicks in during threatening situations, like being near death. In the more lizard-y parts of our brains, Nelson says, long-term memory and fight or flight are connected, which might be part of the reason people say they remember near-death events so vividly. That phenomenon of near-death experiences might be related, causing the my-life-flashed-before-my-eyes effect or other memories cropping up.

In short: There's not exactly a consensus on what causes them, but the most common effects associated with near-death experiences have been reproduced in some way, and solutions have been offered to their most fundamental causes. But whatever the cause, people coming out of them can feel profoundly changed, even if they don't wind up on the cover of Newsweek.

Nothing that explains why blind people can see, but given the scientific explanations for virtually every other kind of NDE, I'm guessing there's an explanation out there somewhere. Especially since we already know we can cure blindness itself with scientific technology like stem cells.

 

[Danielson]

I believe in miracles but not anything supernatural. If someone else has said it best, steal from them and go out strong. This is a great quote that basically sums up my feelings about it

Miracles. Events with astronomical odds of occurring, like oxygen turning into gold. I've longed to witness such an event, and yet I neglect that in human coupling, millions upon millions of cells compete to create life, for generation after generation until, finally, your mother loves a man, a man she has every reason to hate, and out of that contradiction, against unfathomable odds, it's you - only you - that emerged. To distill so specific a form, from all that chaos. It's like turning air into gold. A miracle. And so... I was wrong.

So with that, the birth of my children seems like a miracle.

 

[Swift]

Would being impregnated after being raped and having the child still be considered miraculous? Just curious.

 

[Danielson]

Would being impregnated after being raped and having the child still be considered miraculous? Just curious.

Funny you say that, because the quote i stole that from is Watchmen. The comedian rapes a women and she has this child, which Mr. Manhattan still deems a miracle.

 

[Swift]

Funny you say that, because the quote i stole that from is Watchmen. The comedian rapes a women and she has this child, which Mr. Manhattan still deems a miracle.

:mog:

 

[CrayJ Lee]

When I was in 8th Grade, my grandpa had been in the hospital for months struggling with lung cancer as well as gallstones. One afternoon my family and I were going to go out for lunch but I got this massive pain in my neck to the point where I couldn't move it at all. My parents decided we needed to stay home until the pain subsided. About an hour after we decided to stay home the phone rang and it was my grandma telling us to get to the hospital right away. This was back in the day before we had cell phones. We were able to get to the hospital and that same night my grandpa passed away. Soon after my grandpa's passing the pain in my neck went away. I feel like if that hadn't happened my family wouldn't have caught that phone call until much later and I might not have been able to say goodbye to my grandpa. It was as if I was part of something greater than myself if you happen to believe in that sort of thing.

 

[Crayo]

When I was in 8th Grade, my grandpa had been in the hospital for months struggling with lung cancer as well as gallstones. One afternoon my family and I were going to go out for lunch but I got this massive pain in my neck to the point where I couldn't move it at all. My parents decided we needed to stay home until the pain subsided. About an hour after we decided to stay home the phone rang and it was my grandma telling us to get to the hospital right away. This was back in the day before we had cell phones. We were able to get to the hospital and that same night my grandpa passed away. Soon after my grandpa's passing the pain in my neck went away. I feel like if that hadn't happened my family wouldn't have caught that phone call until much later and I might not have been able to say goodbye to my grandpa. It was as if I was part of something greater than myself if you happen to believe in that sort of thing.

That is a fantastic story, thanks for sharing. It's quite strange how many situations like that arise. One day, my Mum heard a very loud knock on the door. I was outside and no one else was in, so she went to answer the door. No one was at the door, but because it was so loud she went outside to check around our garden area to see if things were okay, and she found me crying my eyes out because a plank of wood with a nail in it fell and scratched the side of my head near my temple. The cut was really deep and there was blood everywhere. If she hadn't of heard that knock on the door, she wouldn't have found me. Nobody knocked on the door.

I don't think I would have died, but it was deep enough for me to have a huge scar on the side of my head for life (she could see the bone). Whether that's life-threatening or not I don't know but it's strange how things like this happen.

 

[Danielson]

Soon after my grandpa's passing the pain in my neck went away. I feel like if that hadn't happened my family wouldn't have caught that phone call until much later and I might not have been able to say goodbye to my grandpa. It was as if I was part of something greater than myself if you happen to believe in that sort of thing.

That's a great story and i'm sorry for your loss.