define "casual fan" to me.
and well, it happened now. cena lost cleanly a few times and nothing bad happened. you're wrong anyway, cena reached a point ages ago where he doesn't need to be champ to draw or sell tickets/merchs. i didn't say he has to lose the title cleanly, just lose it! again, your post's well thought and all and i respect your opinion but once again, that is not what i was saying.
oh and you are looking at it from a smark's point of view. but thats why i ask for your definition of those...so until you answer.
Okay, well you have clearly shown me (and everybody else, for that matter) that you cannot hold a debate. You simply respond with "you're wrong anyway" and refuse to admit that I'm even on the same topic as you (an interesting way to avoid conceding defeat, I must say). If you'd like to continue this conversation, as I would, then I must insist that you respond to my previous post in which I clearly lay out whom John Cena has HELPED as opposed to who you have yet to claim that he has HURT. And I request that you respond in a post that doesn't look like a seven-year-old wrote it. "Legend" or not, you are proving only be immature, uninformed, and frankly, unintelligent. Let me know if you want to talk like a big boy, and I will be glad to take the next step in our conversation. I will even hold your hand if you ask nicely.
A perfect example of how you should respond can be found in CMStar, whom I am now going to continue my discussion with, since he is capable of holding a debate.
Where were we?
CMStar, I understand what you're saying, and from a kayfabe standpoint, it totally makes sense. Well, it doesn't make sense, but it makes as much sense as replacing a participant in the Royal Rumble, so you are 100% correct there.
However, I simply cannot wrap my head around the simple booking behind it. Then again, I am openly stubborn to the idea of not having an Orton/Cena main event at Wrestlemania, so I'm probably not a very good person to logically argue my point. There are two scenarios that I think could have avoided the bizarre booking of the Raw Elimination Chamber, while still inserting Edge. However these alternatives would have been consistent with the fact that Edge was out of line, in kayfabe. The scenarios are as follows:
1) Edge forces himself into the Elimination Chamber and along the way he eliminates John Cena. However Edge himself is later eliminated, and thus does not win. This way, we can still get an Edge/Cena feud, though it would not be for the title.
2) Edge is eliminated from the Chamber by a roll up from Mysterio minutes into entering the match, much like he was earlier in the night. Could you imagine how insane we could go then? I think that would have worked really well, and it would have re-ignited the obsessive role that Edge played so wonderfully in late '04 - early '05.
Both ways would have avoided the fiasco that was the Raw Elimination Chamber.
THAT SAID...this has proved to be only a minor detail in what looks to be a major feud that is planned for John Cena and Edge. If they had centered it on Edge and Vickie's power abuse, then I would have to object. However, I am willing to admit that I did overreact here, and I'm not going to let it ruin what COULD be a great Wrestlemania main event. I have faith in both John Cena and Edge that they will work out something awesome for their title match. Hopefully others look past the minor booking blip and look forward to the Biggest Stage of 'Em All.
