D'Z's overly critical take on the RR

[Snowman1]

Dolph's, a wise friend once said that us longtime fans "have to hold on to the little bones WWE throw our way, no matter how little meat may be on them."

We knew Cena was going to win, but the match was phenomenal. We don't want Twice in a Lifetime, there are several other booking quirks I'd love to change, but the one guy in the rumble you care about had a phenomenal showing. He'll be WHC after Elimination Chamber and all will be well in the world of Ziggler. If you would have said this when you posted http://wweforums.net/thread-10413.html you'd take it in a heartbeat.

The match results sucked, we all knew they would, hell, you called everything last August and we all knew you were right. May as well see the positives (the match quality was fantastic) and hold on to them.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

The positives are so minuscule though that I can't see why everyone is so googoo over over this PPV. Had Ziggler eliminated Sheamus and made the final 2 and lost to Cena I could see a more acceptable silver lining to this predictable snorefest

 

[American Dragon]

And he shall henceforth be known as Dwayne 'The Botch' Johnson.

 

[Rysenberg]

It's quite amazing that on a night where Cena and Rock won the Rumble and WWE title respectively, the three biggest stars were Ziggler, Jericho and Alberto Del Rio. That first match was MOTN by an absolute mile, and that's not even a controversial opinion, it's almost undeniable. Big Show isn't all that bad really, he's worked a few good matches recently and gets a tonne of heat, I still want him to fuck off and retire but he's still got some uses. Jericho's return was awesome, really didn't expect it at all. He and Ziggler then stole the show during the rumble, lot's of exciting spots where they were almost getting chucked over the ropes, having to skin the cat etc, should have finished with those two, Ryback and Cena.

The Rock was horrendous. His pre match promo was one of the worst I have ever seen him deliver - constantly fumbling over lines. The content was crap as well, and as soon as he mentioned his Mum having cancer that pretty much guaranteed he was winning. The match itself was painfully bad, Punk did just about all he could do with Rock, he looked gassed about 2 minutes in lol. At least his selling was as good as usual. Though rather unusually by my standards I managed to figure out the swerve at the end, as soon as the Shield came out I knew Vince was gonna restart it.

Overall I'd give it a 6, really underwhelming PPV.

 

[Crayo]

Yeah Rock's promo(s) sucked, he looked nervous. Disagree with almost all of it but it's pointless going into that, I do agree with the ending of the Rumble being Blue, Ziggler being eliminated so randomly by someone who just can't get over is ridiculous, considering how long he stayed in there. Why Shield have suddenly given up on Ryback is beyond me, if they do continue with the Ryback/shield storyline then why didn't Shield cost him to keep his momentum going? Instead of Cena just burying everyone. The Rock/Punk match is hated on too much imo, people expect 5 star ring skills from a guy who wrestles like once a year and never trains, good job. The psychology is what matters and it was good.

Did anyone expect Cena not to win? Anyone using that to effect their ratings is silly. I was so damn sure I made a site bet saying ANYONE ELSE other than Cena winning and you win... Come on, it was obvious. The only other solution to the Rumble was having Punk beat Rock (which is what I wanted) and then having Ryback win the Rumble. Overall though, I enjoyed the PPV throughout. No boring moments, excellent commentary, great matches, ADR was the highlight for me as well, actually no Jericho returning was. Was just a fantastic PPV imo.

 

[Rysenberg]

Yeah Rock's promo(s) sucked, he looked nervous. Disagree with almost all of it but it's pointless going into that, I do agree with the ending of the Rumble being Blue, Ziggler being eliminated so randomly by someone who just can't get over is ridiculous, considering how long he stayed in there. Why Shield have suddenly given up on Ryback is beyond me, if they do continue with the Ryback/shield storyline then why didn't Shield cost him to keep his momentum going? Instead of Cena just burying everyone. The Rock/Punk match is hated on too much imo, people expect 5 star ring skills from a guy who wrestles like once a year and never trains, good job. The psychology is what matters and it was good.

Did anyone expect Cena not to win? Anyone using that to effect their ratings is silly. I was so damn sure I made a site bet saying ANYONE ELSE other than Cena winning and you win... Come on, it was obvious. The only other solution to the Rumble was having Punk beat Rock (which is what I wanted) and then having Ryback win the Rumble. Overall though, I enjoyed the PPV throughout. No boring moments, excellent commentary, great matches, ADR was the highlight for me as well, actually no Jericho returning was. Was just a fantastic PPV imo.

I actually agree with a lot of that, but Rock/Punk was absolutely abysmal. The majority of the match was just Punk doing his standard offensive whilst the Rock laid down and panted. Rock is just unable to work a 30 minute match, that's exactly why he needs to face Brock @ 'Mania IMO, Brock can just manhandle him for the majority of it and it'll be entertaining.

NGL, I just skipped Hell No/Scholars, I love 3/4 of the guys in it but I was just too excited for the main events to watch this + THN are stale as fuck. The Rumble was pretty weak besides Ziggler, Jericho, Rhodes and Goldust + a couple of others. There were no exciting returns after Jericho's (which was amazing). Beyond ADR/Show (MOTY so far by the way) it was a bit dull for me.

 

[Crayo]

I actually agree with a lot of that, but Rock/Punk was absolutely abysmal. The majority of the match was just Punk doing his standard offensive whilst the Rock laid down and panted. Rock is just unable to work a 30 minute match, that's exactly why he needs to face Brock @ 'Mania IMO, Brock can just manhandle him for the majority of it and it'll be entertaining.

Did you expect anything more though...? Surely vast disappointment only comes if you expected it to be better. Rock was panting when he was delivering his crappy promo for God sake, lol. After Rock/Cena, I knew this match would suck, I just knew it would suck less. I'm incredibly bored of Rock asslicking the public as well, he's lost that badass nature, no wonder half the crowd were rooting for Punk.

 

[Rysenberg]

Did you expect anything more though...? Surely vast disappointment only comes if you expected it to be better. Rock was panting when he was delivering his crappy promo for God sake, lol. After Rock/Cena, I knew this match would suck, I just knew it would suck less. I'm incredibly bored of Rock asslicking the public as well, he's lost that badass nature, no wonder half the crowd were rooting for Punk.

I'd kinda hoped that Rock would try and improve his cardio after WM's showing, but obviously not. Plus with Punk being involved I expected it to be better, but he even he was fairly meh throughout. The announce table spot was horrific as well lmao. But yeah he's always been about pandering to the crowd, but last night he just went waaaayyy over the top with it, he just shouldn't have cut that promo in the first place.

 

[ThreeXBetterThanU]

Honestly, now that I've slept the original Y2J drunkeness off, the pay per view wasn't that great. It grabbed me early with the del rio match and it was the best match of the night.

The next thing that grabbed me was of course Jericho. I was high from smoking the Jericho all night up until he started unleashing hell because i knew that was the end of his run.

After that the rest of the show was trash. The return rumble guys sucked outside of Jericho. No real big names, no guys who could really stay on the scene for any time past last night. The rumble spots weren't that good, nothing that should be remembered, even the kofi spot.

The main event was a huge let down after my Jericho high. The energy was low, the crowd was worn out from the rumble and the rock was worn out from the promo that wasn't that good. Bad ass rock is so much better than peoples champ rock. The ending was predictable and when i think of the outcomes it'll get worse.

Outcomes leads down the road to having punk aligned with shield, that bo guy getting a huge push, Cena/rock two, Cena promos for two months, the inevitable split of team hell no, more big e mic time, and the only bright spot is that Cena won't be a big factor in a chamber match.

I'll drop it two points from 9 to 7/10. Del Rio, zig and y2j deserve that on their own.

~Three Said That~

 

[Stopspot]

I actually agree with a lot of that, but Rock/Punk was absolutely abysmal. The majority of the match was just Punk doing his standard offensive whilst the Rock laid down and panted. Rock is just unable to work a 30 minute match, that's exactly why he needs to face Brock @ 'Mania IMO, Brock can just manhandle him for the majority of it and it'll be entertaining.

NGL, I just skipped Hell No/Scholars, I love 3/4 of the guys in it but I was just too excited for the main events to watch this + THN are stale as f*ck. The Rumble was pretty weak besides Ziggler, Jericho, Rhodes and Goldust + a couple of others. There were no exciting returns after Jericho's (which was amazing). Beyond ADR/Show (MOTY so far by the way) it was a bit dull for me.

I enjoyed the rumble immensely as well as the fact that there were only two real returns which had impact on the match. It allowed WWE to show that their current roster can go in the rumble and make it exciting.

 

[Crayo]

I'd kinda hoped that Rock would try and improve his cardio after WM's showing, but obviously not. Plus with Punk being involved I expected it to be better, but he even he was fairly meh throughout. The announce table spot was horrific as well lmao. But yeah he's always been about pandering to the crowd, but last night he just went waaaayyy over the top with it, he just shouldn't have cut that promo in the first place.

Rock is hella' busy, I doubt he cares about making sure his cardio is good when he's trying to get as big as possible for movies. AS for Punk, I thought he carried it really well in my opinion.

 

[Danielson]

Putting Ryback at 30 threw me for a loop a bit

Where else are you going to put him? He still isn't ready to be in a match very long. He is improving though.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Where else are you going to put him? He still isn't ready to be in a match very long. He is improving though.

I meant that it made me think there was a chance he coUld win. Then when I saw Cena superman everyone, I knew the result hadn't changed.

 

[Stopspot]

Rock is hella' busy, I doubt he cares about making sure his cardio is good when he's trying to get as big as possible for movies. AS for Punk, I thought he carried it really well in my opinion.

Exactly. Rock's weight shifts so much depending on movie roles. His cardio is bound to take a beating.

 

[Danielson]

I meant that it made me think there was a chance he coUld win. Then when I saw Cena superman everyone, I knew the result hadn't changed.

Oh okay, my bad man.