Dwayne keeps calling CM Punk by his real name Philip lol

[BaraaKhalaf92]

Why not? Say Rock didn't face Cena but Punk over instead? Or people tuned in to see Rock with the belt, saw Ryback tearing it up and thought wow this guy is awesome... Its all hypothetical admittedly but is more people interested in your product a bad thing?

I like The Rock and I'm big fan of him, my problem is not with THE ROCK winning the title, my problem is GENERALLY with A PART TIMER winning it....

There are a lot of talents who really deserves to get a shot at the title and even win it, if Rock is returning full time then I have absolutely no problem with him winning it...

 

[Roi]

NO AND HELL NO...

Its just stupid imo to end the longest reign in RAW history

Yeah it's stupid , I mean , rocky would hold the title till wm and then drop it , so... why should the WWE end the longest reign in the last 25 years by giving the title to someone who can not hold it for more than 3 months...?

 

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Re: RE: Dwayne keeps calling CM Punk by his real name Philip lol

I like The Rock and I'm big fan of him, my problem is not with THE ROCK winning the title, my problem is GENERALLY with A PART TIMER winning it....

There are a lot of talents who really deserves to get a shot at the title and even win it, if Rock is returning full time then I have absolutely no problem with him winning it...

The chances are he'll show alot with the belt tbh even if some segments are taped, im guessing every raw in some form (the majority live) and hes already looking like he'll be at EC and obviously WM. So he may disappear after that but whilst holding the title he'll be consistent.

 

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Re: RE: Dwayne keeps calling CM Punk by his real name Philip lol

Yeah it's stupid , I mean , rocky would hold the title till wm and then drop it , so... why should the WWE end the longest reign in the last 25 years by giving the title to someone who can not hold it for more than 3 months...?

Because it's an absolute star who can help them break into mainstream exposure offering potential for long term financial success, plus more eyes on the product = more people seeing your full time superstars.

 

[BaraaKhalaf92]

Yeah it's stupid , I mean , rocky would hold the title till wm and then drop it , so... why should the WWE end the longest reign in the last 25 years by giving the title to someone who can not hold it for more than 3 months...?

Its not a matter of how much he is gonna hold it as much as its a matter of him holding it in the first place....

The only one who I really want to see ending Punk's reign is Daniel Bryan..

 

[arianna]

Hehe, and he said he loves him 1:

 

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Re: RE: Dwayne keeps calling CM Punk by his real name Philip lol

Its not a matter of how much he is gonna hold it as much as its a matter of him holding it in the first place....

The only one who I really want to see ending Punk's reign is Daniel Bryan..

I'd like Bryan to end it too but he isn't close to the star Rock is plus Daniel has got time on his side (he'll get a run with the WWE title in the next 2 years imo) I really don't see what the problem Rock winning causes tbh.

 

[Roi]

. i think about unify belt thing... the promotion currently holds too much championship but very few talents and contenders to challenge for.. i think some of those characters aren't developed properly.. like kofi kingston for instance.. he is such a good wrestler but he never once be highlighted as a wwe champion.. and sin cara as well.. i know we can't see his face.. but with raw talent like he is wouldn't be a waste to put him just in a good wrestling match? with just a tag team title picture? he deserves a bigger spotlight than currently he receives.. and i really hope to see the serious side character of zack ryder... just enough with a guy that always making fun in front of camera.. he can do more than that! i didn't know why i used to enjoy the intercontinental championship and the u.s. title.. unlike now.. very few storylines.. fewer buildup prior to the match.. even with raw running just 2hours in the past they used to be very important.. but now.. even after turning to 3 hours show.. the heat surrounding the championships already gone.. long gone... and speaking about championships.. i think world heavyweight championships and us. title should be stripped... mix all the cards from both championships into wwe and intercontinental title.. and probably should bring back the old hardcore championship.. correct me if im wrong but it seems to me that storylines involving intercontinental and u.s. title nowadays are very lame.. making it obsolete..

 

[Stopspot]

. i think about unify belt thing... the promotion currently holds too much championship but very few talents and contenders to challenge for.. i think some of those characters aren't developed properly.. like kofi kingston for instance.. he is such a good wrestler but he never once be highlighted as a wwe champion.. and sin cara as well.. i know we can't see his face.. but with raw talent like he is wouldn't be a waste to put him just in a good wrestling match? with just a tag team title picture? he deserves a bigger spotlight than currently he receives.. and i really hope to see the serious side character of zack ryder... just enough with a guy that always making fun in front of camera.. he can do more than that! i didn't know why i used to enjoy the intercontinental championship and the u.s. title.. unlike now.. very few storylines.. fewer buildup prior to the match.. even with raw running just 2hours in the past they used to be very important.. but now.. even after turning to 3 hours show.. the heat surrounding the championships already gone.. long gone... and speaking about championships.. i think world heavyweight championships and us. title should be stripped... mix all the cards from both championships into wwe and intercontinental title.. and probably should bring back the old hardcore championship.. correct me if im wrong but it seems to me that storylines involving intercontinental and u.s. title nowadays are very lame.. making it obsolete..

I respect your opinion but this statement is kinda faulty. WWE does not have a shallow or small talent pool. They have a very large one which is just mismanaged. You can easily get every title on the show to feel important if you just dedicate time to it. Something we have seen recently with the resurgence of the tag team division. All you need to do is set up stories and divisions for each title and spread it out over the two (some would say three) main WWE shows. That's six hours of TV programming a week. You can easily make room for and highlight all the titles in that time. We are currently seeing this being done with the WWE title, WHC, tag title and even the US title.

The WHC and WWE title will not merge as long as there is a RAW and there is a Smackdown. Both brands/shows need a main title that can be utilized on the show and draw for live crowds (in theory). The hardcore division would just not fit right now, not because of space, but because of the time period we are living in now. Society as it is now would not take well to the type of hardcore matches that the people who really fight for hardcore wrestling would like to see. That's why promotions like CZW exist, to cater to the vocal minority.

WWE considering its amount of programming and time on weekly TV, have a good amount of titles. All they need to do is utilize them correctly and start utilizing their roster better. Simple as that in my opinion

 

[Mustafar Reginald]

Why not? Say Rock didn't face Cena but Punk over instead? Or people tuned in to see Rock with the belt, saw Ryback tearing it up and thought wow this guy is awesome... Its all hypothetical admittedly but is more people interested in your product a bad thing?

Rock facing Punk at Mania instead of facing Cena at Mania instead is the same exact thing with just a different name. Punk isn't going to benefit anymore than Cena would, there both the top names in the company and while Cena is certainly number one it doesn't change the fact that Punk isn't going to have any long term benefit from beating Rock at Mania after losing to him at the Rumble (or beating him in general). I'll I can imagine that doing is giving Punk some extra fuel if/when he enters back into a feud with Cena.

I don't honestly see too many people who's interested in watching Raw just to see The Rock stick through the whole three hour show instead of just tuning in for Rock segments like ratings in the past have shown tend to show have happen. I'm not doubting it could have a positive impact or anything, in fact I do think it will, having it's nothing that's going to be significant and will last as long as it did when Rock returned last year and left. And we can tell by the ratings that their use of The Rock had great long term effects. Yeah, in this scenario he'll be champion but honestly, it's The Rock. How many people would actually say "you know, The Rock is back but he's not champion so I'm not watching"? Yeah, you get more mainstream exposure for Rock winning the belt sure, but again I'm just doubtful on the whole it having a big lasting effect or making that much difference from last time. Especially since that same indirect helping can still happen with the Rock not winning the belt, granted on a smaller scale.

But yeah, I have my problems with Rock winning, a lot falling under honor before reason, but really, I'd be able to deal with it if WWE was going to have Rock drop the title to somebody who could actually truly benefit from it and Cena & Punk just are those guys in my opinion.

 

[BrockLesnarFanForLife]

CM Punk is still gonna be WWE champion after Wrestlemania 29. Dwayne is going nowhere near that title

 

[JeebaK]

I get the feeling that The Rock wouldnt drop the title at Mania.

Punk loosing to rock at RR and then winning the title back at Wrestlemania will have absolutely no effect on his career, hes already a well established star. I just dont see a newcomer beating rock either. Rock beating Cena, then Punk then loosing to a nobody? Sounds awful.

What it can produce though is a heel turn. Maybe someone big turning heel and helping Punk to retain the title, then rock having a match with that someone big at the mainevent after wrestlemania where he injures rock badly and rock retires.

Brock would have been perfect if he had a long term deal.

Maybe another chance to turn Cena heel and team him up with Punk? Maybe turning Ryback heel? Maybe turning Big Show into Punk's right hand man? Maybe even turning Sheamus heel again?

 

[arianna]

It's amazing :yay:

 

[Lockard 23]

He called him Philip because he was talking about him in real life, not as the character CM Punk. And they did have heat with each other (Punk said Rock doesn't deserve the credit he gets for the WM27 buyrate when he did nothing meaningful there and he called him an asshole backstage at Survivor Series later in the year) but they've made up for it since then. Just like Rock and Cena, who I saw hugging in a video backstage after their WM28 match.

Anyway, I still don't see the problem with Rock winning the belt. As mentioned, it'll perhaps bring a lot of attention to the product and probably make headlines that 'movie star The Rock/Dwayne Johnson won the WWE Title again" and as a fan, it'll be cool to see him with the belt again. Also, he's gonna be involved in the main storyline heading into WM29 as it is, and if that program is for the belt, then what difference does it make whether he's champ or not? Lastly, who else could beat Punk for the belt? He's beaten pretty much everyone else at this point (Cena, Bryan, Jericho, Del Rio, Kane, The Miz, etc.) Ryback would have been a good choice, but he's already failed to win the belt twice now, and a third time coming up in January. Undertaker would be terrible considering he can't even work a full schedule anymore. Sheamus is the only other choice, but do you really want to see that? (And to be absolutely technical, Punk beat him once already on Main Event as well.) Rock is almost the only fresh opponent that is left.

All this being said, I still have a lingering feeling Punk will retain at the Rumble, but won't care at all if he doesn't.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

At this point I'd rather have him lose it to freakin' Ryder. It'll just leave such a sour taste in my mouth for the longest reign we've seen this millennium, to be stopped by a guy who shows up whenever he feels like it. Like I've said before, I was a HUGE Rock mark back in the day, but this isn't right.