Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

[Shayon]

You see, that just proves what we're saying. How much we like the match is individual. Because one of the things I liked about the match was that it was not a near fall fest from the beginning. I don't think a match has to be near fall after near fall in order to be a good match. This match had a gradual progression that I liked and that is why I rated it so high.

No it doesn't need to be a near fall fest, but I said it didn't have enough near falls either, if you look at it that way, then it may seem to just be a crazy spot fest! And it's not, similarly, a match with plenty of near falls isn't always a near fall fest,

 

[Shayon]

No, it doesn't. Meltzer gave it 6 stars because he thinks he's cool. Still, it was an excellent match that I enjoyed, but a 6-star rating? Ridiculous.

No doubt about that it was an amazing match, a treat. But it was just that, not more not less. It was far from being the ultimate match that deserves a six star rating

 

[Stopspot]

No it doesn't need to be a near fall fest, but I said it didn't have enough near falls either, if you look at it that way, then it may seem to just be a crazy spot fest! And it's not, similarly, a match with plenty of near falls isn't always a near fall fest,

Matches don't need a bunch of near falls either. That comes down to taste

 

[Shayon]

Matches don't need a bunch of near falls either. That comes down to taste

Yep but classics surely do

 

[Prince Bálor]

No doubt about that it was an amazing match, a treat. But it was just that, not more not less. It was far from being the ultimate match that deserves a six star rating

Yeah, as Jacob already said: "If the ultimate rating is 5 stars, giving a match 6 stars is just stupid." and I agree with that 100%.

 

[Shayon]

Yeah, as Jacob already said: "If the ultimate rating is 5 stars, giving a match 6 stars is just stupid." and I agree with that 100%.

Still, I won't give it even 5 stars

 

[Prince Bálor]

Still, I won't give it even 5 stars

That's your personal opinion, buddy and nobody can change that.

 

[Jacob Fox]

The standard time limit for IWGP heavyweight matches is 60 minutes. Doesn't mean they have to go the full monty. But they have the option (in kayfabe)

Understandable, but unless my Japanese is off, they really don't talk about it that much.

 

[Shayon]

That's your personal opinion, buddy and nobody can change that.

What about you, how'd u rate this one? And would u break the system?

 

[Prince Bálor]

What about you, how'd u rate this one? And would u break the system?

I gave it 5 stars and I already said how I feel about 6 stars.

 

[Shayon]

I gave it 5 stars and I already said how I feel about 6 stars.

Would u elaborate about giving it a full five star rating?

 

[Stopspot]

Yep but classics surely do

No. They really do not. Constant near falls do more to bring down a match than elevate it

 

[Stopspot]

Yeah, as Jacob already said: "If the ultimate rating is 5 stars, giving a match 6 stars is just stupid." and I agree with that 100%.

Lets not be stupid here.

Dave only rated matches on a 4 star scale up until the early-mid 90s. He's said it multiple times that he revisits his rating system from time to time to see if he needs to add a star or not.

TV shows, movies, books, comics, games and much more are often rated on 1-10 scales depending on who does the rating.

To say that 5 stars is the end all be all is not only restrictive, but sends the message of "My opinion matters more than anyone else".

If Dave wants to rate it six stars let him. It isn't like he is going to spam 6 star ratings all over shows. It will be treated as a new, harder level of greatness to achieve even above the 5 star rating on his scale.

 

[Shayon]

Lets not be stupid here.

Dave only rated matches on a 4 star scale up until the early-mid 90s. He's said it multiple times that he revisits his rating system from time to time to see if he needs to add a star or not.

TV shows, movies, books, comics, games and much more are often rated on 1-10 scales depending on who does the rating.

To say that 5 stars is the end all be all is not only restrictive, but sends the message of "My opinion matters more than anyone else".

If Dave wants to rate it six stars let him. It isn't like he is going to spam 6 star ratings all over shows. It will be treated as a new, harder level of greatness to achieve even above the 5 star rating on his scale.

How'd u rate this one, and how'd u analyze this match? And why is this match so great in your opinion?

 

[Prince Bálor]

Lets not be stupid here.

Dave only rated matches on a 4 star scale up until the early-mid 90s. He's said it multiple times that he revisits his rating system from time to time to see if he needs to add a star or not.

TV shows, movies, books, comics, games and much more are often rated on 1-10 scales depending on who does the rating.

To say that 5 stars is the end all be all is not only restrictive, but sends the message of "My opinion matters more than anyone else".

If Dave wants to rate it six stars let him. It isn't like he is going to spam 6 star ratings all over shows. It will be treated as a new, harder level of greatness to achieve even above the 5 star rating on his scale.

Rating things on the scale of 1-10 is fine by me, as is the 1-5 scale, but if either 5 or 10 is set as the ultimate rating, then giving it a 6 or 11 is silly in my book.