Did ADR seriously lose cleanly?

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You really spammed something serious lately. Fuck off with your Christian/y2j hate, those dudes are stars who are doing what we all wish people like angle/sting/hogan/rvd/those old fucks would do. And yet, you complain about it.

Yeah, christian is going to win 20% of the time, and it will still be a great match. You are bitter about watching great matches, and it's honestly to the point where i think you only hate for the sake of being a dick.

Dude, stfu. I love Christian and Y2J as much as you do, which is why it's annoying watching them lose all the time (or beat jobbers). I'm fine with Christian getting a title shot, but I'm not fine with ADR losing cleanly all of a sudden. Why have the champs lose cleanly all the time? It sucks. Jesus you're fucking stupid sometimes.
 

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Dude, stfu. I love Christian and Y2J as much as you do, which is why it's annoying watching them lose all the time (or beat jobbers). I'm fine with Christian getting a title shot, but I'm not fine with ADR losing cleanly all of a sudden. Why have the champs lose cleanly all the time? It sucks. Jesus you're fucking stupid sometimes.

im fucking stupid most of the time.

What im saying is a win over a person who is (what is christian, 2 time world champ, 6 time IC?) a future HoF member is great for a build, especially when you are left with the options. Id rather see Ryder job (honestly) just for the sake of seeing him on tv, but watching people put newer wrestlers over is a good thing.

Look at Fandango at WM, so many people shit on Y2J losing but the dude has ran with that victory and had a DANK MitB performance. WWE is doing something right by who it's chosen to take the reigns off people.

As for ADR? I dont even know what the fuck/why the hell he still has the belt. Everyone SHIT on him about that US love gimmick he did for a few weeks, which failed miserably, and somehow he is still in the title scene. What they need to do is have him job for a month/two straight, drop the fucking title, and take a month/few off. I love ADR as much as anyone can, but his shit is so damn bad, and he SUCKS without Ricardo by his side, honestly.

Also champs used to lose on TV all the time, it's called building an underdog match, where the face isn't as good as the heel, and he overcomes it at the ppv. Generic build #1 ftw. Jesus you're a fucking mark sometimes.
 

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It's a dirty, terrible job, but someone has to do it.

where do you work? Im gonna call in a complaint on "that fat, annoying fuckface who is on wwef" and i hope it brings me to you. It might transfer me to Danielson but that isnt a bad deal.
 

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It's the creativity I despise. The cliché of heel champions losing against their future PPV competitor cleanly, and then building the PPV around a match we have already seen, knowing it's not going to have the exact same result. That is just lazy lazy booking. Host a #1 contender tournament or something. Not only is that creative and different, but it gives the #1 contender a chance to look strong going into the PPV, and makes SmackDown actually interesting.

You think Jericho losing to Fandango made Fandango? No, the crowd on the RAW after WM made Fandango, for about a month. Now he's back to very quiet reactions - few still sing his theme - and losing matches.

And I agree, I don't want ADR as champion either, he's boring as fuck atm. However, that's no reason for me to suddenly be okay with heel champions losing cleanly on free TV to a competitor they're going to face again in a few weeks on PPV.
 

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It's the creativity I despise. The cliché of heel champions losing against their future PPV competitor cleanly, and then building the PPV around a match we have already seen, knowing it's not going to have the exact same result. That is just lazy lazy booking. Host a #1 contender tournament or something. Not only is that creative and different, but it gives the #1 contender a chance to look strong going into the PPV, and makes SmackDown actually interesting.

You think Jericho losing to Fandango made Fandango? No, the crowd on the RAW after WM made Fandango, for about a month. Now he's back to very quiet reactions - few still sing his theme - and losing matches.

And I agree, I don't want ADR as champion either, he's boring as fuck atm. However, that's no reason for me to suddenly be okay with heel champions losing cleanly on free TV to a competitor they're going to face again in a few weeks on PPV.

the crowd at WM made it better, but that was a decent/good match easily, and anyone who liked Y2J really should appreciate him selling/putting over fandango. The match was one of the better at this shit WM we had.

Lazy booking? Welcome to Wrestling, i dont enjoy it, and while i agree and get your point, but they are going to keep those certain people in that contention over and over. If it was up to me we'd have DZ as the champ, DB as heavy, Barrett as IC facing Axel, and id get rid of US for cruiserweight. I am honestly pulling for the real americans to get a tag team push, as they did really well. I think WWE focuses too much on what it does AT THIS MOMENT without realizing they could build for the future. The last 2-3 months have been great, but there is a lack of build for most people. Even fandango still gets talk about WM vs y2j instead of highlights from him being a fucking boss at MITB.

And smackdown is bullshit. WWE needs to brand split, or acknowledge Smackdown exists and make it relevant. The show has always had better matches, but the storyline means nothing, at all. ADR has been boring as fuck for months, its almost as bad as the cm punk end to his reign. So, fucking, bad.

You need to accept people are gonna lose clean, especially someone as hated as ADR, he was built vs ziggler but it's not a prop to him, its a huge shit on DZ and how WWE treats him.
 

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How bothersome is it that Christian came back, beat up some jobbers, won the tag match with Sheamus and the 6-man tag, and then they had nothing for him so he was jobbing quickly... but since MITB now he's beating everyone?

Yeah wins and losses aren't as important as momentum, but they have to mean something. You can't just treat someone as a go-nowhere jobber and at the snap of a finger he's an unbeatable #1 contender. (Smartass remark: That kind of stuff is only saved for face turns)
 

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How bothersome is it that Christian came back, beat up some jobbers, won the tag match with Sheamus and the 6-man tag, and then they had nothing for him so he was jobbing quickly... but since MITB now he's beating everyone?

Yeah wins and losses aren't as important as momentum, but they have to mean something. You can't just treat someone as a go-nowhere jobber and at the snap of a finger he's an unbeatable #1 contender. (Smartass remark: That kind of stuff is only saved for face turns)

fucker. Id mark for a Ryder run.

Where all my bros at!? Woo.
 

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How bothersome is it that Christian came back, beat up some jobbers, won the tag match with Sheamus and the 6-man tag, and then they had nothing for him so he was jobbing quickly... but since MITB now he's beating everyone?

Yeah wins and losses aren't as important as momentum, but they have to mean something. You can't just treat someone as a go-nowhere jobber and at the snap of a finger he's an unbeatable #1 contender. (Smartass remark: That kind of stuff is only saved for face turns)

Yeah, it's funny. It's like, yeah, Christian is back! He's beating everyone! Well, OK, now he's jobbing clean to Kane and stuff. Now YEAH CHRISTIAN IS THE BEST AGAIN in less than two months lol.
 
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LOL rewatching now, he lost via roll up crayo. They are building for a match, you need to eat crow and stfu.
 

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ADR hasn't lost clean in so long, like damn. But I guess when he lost cleanly, it was against Randy Orton, so not really a surprise...