Dark Side of the Ring

[Death By Looch]

The Naitch speaks

...well, that's just bad. Flair says that Rory guy typically lies when he opens his mouth, but of course he's telling the truth when he says he didn't uncover anyone who would confirm those actions.

Also that Rory guy said, that he never heard anyone, from those he talked to during the making of the 30 for 30 episode, confirming actions like that. It doesn't matter if it was done once, or hundreds of times, it's still wrong to do it.

Nothing about this episode is going to shine anything new on Cena or Taker that we (posters on this forum specifically) didn't already know. Cena has always been a corporate mouthpiece and Taker has always been an enabler of backstage bullying. I'm sure some people will choose to act shocked and appalled by this "new information" though.

Maybe nothing new comes from it, maybe it does. It depends on who they went to for the talking head segments. I definitely would like to see what Darren Young or Tyler Reks have to say, if they were approached.

 

[GARBAGE]

Lookin like the people interviewed for the Kanyon episode will be DDP, Sinister Minister, Brian Cage, Luke Hawx, and the Young Bucks. Those last few fascinate me since I never would have placed a link there (plus I don't even know who Luke Hawx is, but the guy even bailed Kanyon out of jail once according to wiki), but they apparently all became friends with Kanyon. Jericho's name is mentioned too but I'm unsure if it just means he'll be narrating like normal.

I'm ready for another gut punch of a watch for this one, not just for the homophobia, but Kanyon was bipolar had threatened suicide multiple times over the years (and has at least one attempt I can find info on, from 2003) before actually doing it in 2010.

 

[Death By Looch]

Luke Hawx is the former Altar Boy Luke... not a bad Wrestler. Young Bucks and Brian Cage, while I can believe they being friends with Kanyon, just seem to be the usual AEW tie-ins.

 

[Swamps]

Sure....because Pat Patterson was the subject of the same treatment his entire time there too.

And Brooklyn Brawler.

 

[Hoss]

Luke Hawx is the former Altar Boy Luke... not a bad Wrestler. Young Bucks and Brian Cage, while I can believe they being friends with Kanyon, just seem to be the usual AEW tie-ins.

Cage was trained by Kanyon, he was definitely very close to him.

 

[Comrade Khan]

@Dethamine I believe tge term you are looking for is " whataboutism" and it is one of the major plagues to a proper discussion as you can do it about literally anything. Not to mention an irrelevant transgression of another human and the lack of outrage towards it is a) irrelevant and b) out of anyone's control and can't be changed. It's terrible flawed logic that would get you laughed at in actual debate n it I completely understand your frustration at it because quite frankly it's a hot garbage take

 

[Death By Looch]

Cage was trained by Kanyon, he was definitely very close to him.

Fair enough.
I'm just too accustomed to the feeling that quite a lot of episodes kinda seem to be a bit too much on the AEW tie-in side of things.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Fair enough.
I'm just too accustomed to the feeling that quite a lot of episodes kinda seem to be a bit too much on the AEW tie-in side of things.

Yeah w Jericho narrating n wwe likely not willing to play ball ever, its not overly shocking. It's a fair observation

 

[Alexa]

@Dethamine I believe tge term you are looking for is " whataboutism" and it is one of the major plagues to a proper discussion as you can do it about literally anything. Not to mention an irrelevant transgression of another human and the lack of outrage towards it is a) irrelevant and b) out of anyone's control and can't be changed. It's terrible flawed logic that would get you laughed at in actual debate n it I completely understand your frustration at it because quite frankly it's a hot garbage take

Yeah, that is what I was going for. I just Raven as an example since he did it a lot in WCW and all.

 

[Smart Marx]

@Dethamine I believe tge term you are looking for is " whataboutism" and it is one of the major plagues to a proper discussion as you can do it about literally anything. Not to mention an irrelevant transgression of another human and the lack of outrage towards it is a) irrelevant and b) out of anyone's control and can't be changed. It's terrible flawed logic that would get you laughed at in actual debate n it I completely understand your frustration at it because quite frankly it's a hot garbage take

That clears it up. I didn’t get it.

 

[Alexa]

That clears it up. I didn’t get it.

Yeah, guess I could have explained it better, so that is my fault.

 

[Chris]

Here's another statement from Flair:

"To clarify, the ‘helicopter’ as it was called, is accurate. I wish I could blame it on youth, but it was a case of drinking too much and being inappropriate and I apologize for that (and have countless times over the years).


“I made some bad decisions during dark periods in my life, and it is something I’ve spent a significant part of years I was given by the doctors in 2017 trying to make right.


“I condemn sexual assault in any way, shape or form. I could (and have) written books (as have others) that have covered my transgressions. I’ve made some terrible decisions, but I’ve never forced myself on anyone in any way. Period.”

 

[Smart Marx]

Here's another statement from Flair:

See this is what I think dreamer was trying to say but he was such an idiot that he butchered it.

I don’t know what to think about this other than at least he acknowledges the helicopter thing and he owns his bad behaviors outside that one thing.

 

[Smart Marx]

Interesting. This is now 2 people, 3 if you count Ric.

 

[his_insanity]

I'm really curious where Dark Side of the Ring is going in Season 4?

Pitbull #2?
British Bulldog?
Mr. Perfect?
Big Boss Man?
Brian Christopher?

Not every single death is "mired in drama and darkness" but many of them in professional wrestling are. Have to wonder what stories or incidents will be covered.

What are you guys/gals ideas?