Dark Side of the Ring: Plane Ride From Hell Discussion Thread

[CM Punk]

Discuss the latest episode of Dark Side of the Ring which features one of the most infamous stories from WWE.

 

[Nostradamus]

Tommy Dreamer, more like Tommy I-Enable-Sexual-Deviance

 

[Zany Clowny]

Ric is untouchable. I haven't even seen this yet and all I'm hearing about is Tommy Dreamer giving a boomer take on VICE of all places. Dreamer was talking about passing out because of head trauma 10 years ago, not worth holding anything he says against him.

 

[CM Punk]

Ric is untouchable. I haven't even seen this yet and all I'm hearing about is Tommy Dreamer giving a boomer take on VICE of all places. Dreamer was talking about passing out because of head trauma 10 years ago, not worth holding anything he says against him.

Dreamer didn’t really say his side of the story. Moreso, “That’s Ric just being Ric and you got offended.” + “If he’s such a heinous person maybe you shouldn’t have taken the settlement.”

 

[Tyler2]

Dreamer didn’t really say his side of the story. Moreso, “That’s Ric just being Ric and you got offended.” + “If he’s such a heinous person maybe you shouldn’t have taken the settlement.”

He also compared indecent exposure and forcing someone to touch your junk to his hair. Which is not a very good look

 

[Crash]

Tommy Dreamer, more like Tommy I-Enable-Sexual-Deviance

Tommy "The Enabler of Sexual Deviance" Dreamer sounds better since he is known as "The Innovator Of Violence".

 

[Doxo]

Dreamer and Flair are the biggest talking points because that's what the ending was focused on, but I'm surprised nobody is talking about the two big things in the beginning, Lesnar flashing Terri and RVD casually mentioned how often wrestlers would roofie and rape women while unconscious. Like, how the heck has nobody mentioned that RVD bit. He was smart to say "the boys" rather than "we", I'll give him that much

 

[CM Punk]

Dreamer and Flair are the biggest talking points because that's what the ending was focused on, but I'm surprised nobody is talking about the two big things in the beginning, Lesnar flashing Terri and RVD casually mentioned how often wrestlers would roofie and rape women while unconscious. Like, how the heck has nobody mentioned that RVD bit. He was smart to say "the boys" rather than "we", I'll give him that much

The Lesnar story has been out for a while. The reason the Ric story hit more is cause they actually got the flight attendant. The RVD story was shocking but expected . But there’s no name attached so we have nothing to point at.

 

[InSaNe]

Dreamer didn’t really say his side of the story. Moreso, “That’s Ric just being Ric and you got offended.” + “If he’s such a heinous person maybe you shouldn’t have taken the settlement.”

This is exactly how I felt when reading about the story. He also shouldn't have apologized.

Cancel Culture is STUPID. People are stupid. People are overreacting in this.

Now, I get it, its a sensitive subject, but from what I've read, He. Didn’t. Have. Anything. To. Do. With. It.

 

[Tyler2]

This is exactly how I felt when reading about the story. He also shouldn't have apologized.

Cancel Culture is STUPID. People are stupid. People are overreacting in this.

Now, I get it, its a sensitive subject, but from what I've read, He. Didn’t. Have. Anything. To. Do. With. It.

While I'm not saying cancel Dreamer and I never want him to work again. The dude literally compared sexual assault to having an awful hairstyle

 

[InSaNe]

While I'm not saying cancel Dreamer and I never want him to work again. The dude literally compared sexual assault to having an awful hairstyle

That's a hot take, but I thought the whole controversy is because he thinks that Ric Flair DOESN'T seem like the kind of person to grab women's genitals.

Impact suspended him for the comments, and had to apologize on Twitter to "cave in" to the cancel mob.

I'm not a big proponent of accusing someone and getting away with it. Which damages one's career, over what? An empty sexual assault story? Women will do whatever it takes to get money, bro. You know this. Now, I'm not saying ALL women do it, but there are a lot of dumb women, a lot of liars.

If you're going to accuse someone of sexual assault... YOU BETTER be truthful or at least have some proof.

I'm not saying you, I'm saying in general.

 

[Tyler2]

That's a hot take, but I thought the whole controversy is because he thinks that Ric Flair DOESN'T seem like the kind of person to grab women's genitals.

Impact suspended him for the comments, and had to apologize on Twitter to "cave in" to the cancel mob.

I'm not a big proponent of accusing someone and getting away with it. Which damages one's career, over what? An empty sexual assault story? Women will do whatever it takes to get money, bro. You know this. Now, I'm not saying ALL women do it, but there are a lot of dumb women, a lot of liars.

If you're going to accuse someone of sexual assault... YOU BETTER be truthful or at least have some proof.

I'm not saying you, I'm saying in general.

To be fair, I don't know if you saw Dark Side of the Ring. But the flight attendant speaking looked pretty traumatized still. She tried to say Flair wasn't going to rape me. I thought Dreamer didn't say anything bad. Until the ending when he decided to compare his double ponytail to a naked 53 year old man cornering you with a Liberace robe. If anything we should be focusing this energy at WWE for letting this slide for so long. I mean Billy Kidman had a theme about h bombing people

 

[InSaNe]

To be fair, I don't know if you saw Dark Side of the Ring. But the flight attendant speaking looked pretty traumatized still. She tried to say Flair wasn't going to rape me. I thought Dreamer didn't say anything bad. Until the ending when he decided to compare his double ponytail to a naked 53 year old man cornering you with a Liberace robe. If anything we should be focusing this energy at WWE for letting this slide for so long. I mean Billy Kidman had a theme about h bombing people

See, you and I agree in bolded. I also agree, that comparing sexual assault via being cornered by a 53 year old unrobing himself, to hairstyle is WRONG. That was stupid.

My problem is all this - is just that the controversy is just ridiculous. Its like you said why not direct the anger at WWE or like I said... why is isn't the anger towards Flair? FLAIR.

 

[Tyler2]

See, you and I agree in bolded. I also agree, that comparing sexual assault via being cornered by a 53 year old unrobing himself, to hairstyle is WRONG. That was stupid.

My problem is all this - is just that the controversy is just ridiculous. Its like you said why not direct the anger at WWE or like I said... why is isn't the anger towards Flair? FLAIR.

I'm all for holding Dreamer accountable, and Flair too. But WWE literally did nothing. Not even a fine. Heck I would've fined Flair a hefty price

 

[CM Punk]

That's a hot take, but I thought the whole controversy is because he thinks that Ric Flair DOESN'T seem like the kind of person to grab women's genitals.

Impact suspended him for the comments, and had to apologize on Twitter to "cave in" to the cancel mob.

I'm not a big proponent of accusing someone and getting away with it. Which damages one's career, over what? An empty sexual assault story? Women will do whatever it takes to get money, bro. You know this. Now, I'm not saying ALL women do it, but there are a lot of dumb women, a lot of liars.

If you're going to accuse someone of sexual assault... YOU BETTER be truthful or at least have some proof.

I'm not saying you, I'm saying in general.

There was a lawsuit with two flight attendants at the time and RVD himself said he saw it. And Goldust is the one to stop Ric.