Daniel Bryan needs to stop trying to get over with IWC.

[Jimmy King]

I’m all for you having your opinions and I usually stay out of whatever you put on here because I don’t have the time nor the patience for a back and forth argument, but if you’re referring to Cesaro as a talentless hack then I don’t even know anymore because that man is far from talentless or a hack.

 

[RLStern]

I was literally about to ask who he jobbed to. Everyone knows Cesaro is a great talent and has been deserving of a push for years.

Somehow when I saw the notification this thread was created, I knew Stern made it

I’m all for you having your opinions and I usually stay out of whatever you put on here because I don’t have the time nor the patience for a back and forth argument, but if you’re referring to Cesaro as a talentless hack then I don’t even know anymore because that man is far from talentless or a hack.

Cesaro isn’t a draw and he can’t talk on mic, therefore cannot connect with the United States audience that is driven by storyline and character.

He’s been on national television for a decade and has not drawn, that’s not talent, and there’s no way you can spin that objective.

He’s a good undercard talent but shouldn’t be a focal point of any U.S. wrestling promotion.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Futile effort.....no one can be considered a draw when the promotion is on the marquee by itself.

Naw mean?

I was just making this argument the other day.

 

[CakeWalker]

He is a massive draw to the European market - and is over with loads of US fans. Talking nonsense.

 

[RLStern]

He is a massive draw to the European market - and is over with loads of US fans. Talking nonsense.

He’s not, he does not draw huge business for WWE in the US Market, he’s irrelevant.

You folks did this shit during the Attitude era, when you pushed for Dean Malenko to get a world title push.

Stop.

These guys are not draws and will never draw in the western culture/United States professional wrestling market

 

[Kross Rhodes]

He’s a good undercard talent but shouldn’t be a focal point of any U.S. wrestling promotion.

I can agree to this point, but to say he doesn't have talent is a bit silly. He's a good undercard hand like you just said.

 

[CakeWalker]

You realise Europe is part of Western culture?

 

[Wangman Page]

You know what. I draw. I am the main event. Cesaro is good.

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[RLStern]

I can agree to this point, but to say he doesn't have talent is a bit silly. He's a good undercard hand like you just said.

Never said he had zero talent. he has solid lower card talent, but has absolutely zero main event talent, that requires mic skill & character.

In no circumstances should he be beating Daniel Bryan.

Just like Chris Benoit had zero business main eventing Wrestlemania.

You realise Europe is part of Western culture?

Semantics, remove that term then and stick with United States Market.

The bottom line is that Cesaro is not a huge draw in the U.S. Wrestling market, a storyline and character driven market, this is an objective fact.

 

[CakeWalker]

Wrestling isn't just about the US Wresting Market though. Daniel Bryan certainly doesn't just care about the US market.

 

[RLStern]

Wrestling isn't just about the US Wresting Market though. Daniel Bryan certainly doesn't just care about the US market.

Then he’s lost, WWE’s main base is the United States.

What happens in other markets is irrelevant to the United States market. The niche fanatic may care about the other markets but it’s irrelevant in the United States.

 

[CakeWalker]

the WWE doesnt just care about the US MARKET.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

I think WWE very much so wants that Indian market.

 

[RLStern]

the WWE doesnt just care about the US MARKET.

Thats good, but their market should cater to U.S. markets since that’s their main audience.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

I think WWE very much so wants that Indian market.

Would explain why Jinder was champ..... and Khali also. Oof.


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