Crusader Kings II: A Mafia Tale GAME Thread

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This is true btw, Banez has made a couple "slips" like these in numerous games before and they've never been actual slips.

Can they be called slips then even?

What i say, is always with an intent.
 

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My point is if you haven't kept track of our games, it seems strange you'd attempt a meta read on Evans whom you've evidently not experienced at all ever since his return?

Sky had already taken her sabbatical by the time Evans returned?
 

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Okay so just trying to portray the wagon as more legitimate than it was? Why immediately stop without payoff tho?

You and poyser killed the wagon, it's never going anymore after that. Which is 100% fine as I got a fairly decent read on both of you, as both of your reads felt genuine. I don't think we we're getting much more out of it at the time either, as it had resorted to sky and banez going in a bit of a circle.
 

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My point is if you haven't kept track of our games, it seems strange you'd attempt a meta read on Evans whom you've evidently not experienced at all ever since his return?
When was this a meta read? I voted on him as a Page 1 fun vote, then stuck on him when he seemed to outright state he was scum.
 

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When was this a meta read? I voted on him as a Page 1 fun vote, then stuck on him when he seemed to outright state he was scum.

And how many people have you caught saying that and actually flipping scum that game?
 

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When was this a meta read? I voted on him as a Page 1 fun vote, then stuck on him when he seemed to outright state he was scum.
EV thinking someone is troublesome and not voting them feels odd. Feels too reserved for him. Perhaps the calling Banez troublesome was a bit of noncomittal performative shading

Jeff I want to call town, he's going at it on all fronts it seems which is what I expect from known TOWN LEADER Jeff. Even though I disagree with how he sees Banez (you sure you don't want to pursue that "I will stay undefeated" comment further??)
The bolded part. If you haven't seen him since his return, where does this sense of what's too much of anything out of him come from?
 

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When was this a meta read? I voted on him as a Page 1 fun vote, then stuck on him when he seemed to outright state he was scum.

He's talking about the meta read on EV you made not your Banez vote
 
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EV thinking someone is troublesome and not voting them feels odd. Feels too reserved for him. Perhaps the calling Banez troublesome was a bit of noncomittal performative shading

Jeff I want to call town, he's going at it on all fronts it seems which is what I expect from known TOWN LEADER Jeff. Even though I disagree with how he sees Banez (you sure you don't want to pursue that "I will stay undefeated" comment further??)
Nah there’s a pretty obvious explanation for the meaning imo
 

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The bolded part. If you haven't seen him since his return, where does this sense of what's too much of anything out of him come from?
Must have gotten EV and Banez mixed up, sorry. I feel like I characterise what one would call "low tier players" mostly the same, that they tend to act out more when they're not scum. That's probably where that was coming from
 

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You and poyser killed the wagon, it's never going anymore after that. Which is 100% fine as I got a fairly decent read on both of you, as both of your reads felt genuine. I don't think we we're getting much more out of it at the time either, as it had resorted to sky and banez going in a bit of a circle.
I guess that's fair. What are your actual thoughts on Skys reasoning for wagoning Banez?
 

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Nah there’s a pretty obvious explanation for the meaning imo
I get that, but it's quite unusual and unnatural for him to say it in that way. It's such a roundabout way of saying "I'm not scum" which makes you look like saying you are scum.
 

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I guess that's fair. What are your actual thoughts on Skys reasoning for wagoning Banez?

For now, its the kind of things ive seen her do as town before. And its the kind of detail and reaction that would get her spidey sense going. I buy it for now
 

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The bolded part. If you haven't seen him since his return, where does this sense of what's too much of anything out of him come from?
Bit of a weird sticking point

It’s not like sky hasn’t played with EV before. Why would it be weird for her to assume he plays the same way she’s seen?
 

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Must have gotten EV and Banez mixed up, sorry. I feel like I characterise what one would call "low tier players" mostly the same, that they tend to act out more when they're not scum. That's probably where that was coming from
I get that, but it's quite unusual and unnatural for him to say it in that way. It's such a roundabout way of saying "I'm not scum" which makes you look like saying you are scum.

Both of these look like you're trying to force in generic reasons for your reads :deandre
 
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