CM Punk's faults

[Dolph'sZiggler]

How is his look not a fault? You think 5'10 190 lbs is the ideal size for a world heavyweight champion?

 

[Jose Tortilla]

How is his look not a fault? You think 5'10 190 lbs is the ideal size for a world heavyweight champion?

YES! YES! YES!


Nah..

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

YES! YES! YES!


Nah..

rofl

 

[seabs]

YES! YES! YES!


Nah..

Bryan is in a lot better shape then Punk. He has more muscle mass, but anyway Punk's look fits him. He's a regular guy in a land of super heroes and cowards.

 

[Crayo]

Yes, it doesn't have to be a specific Vince McMahon mold. Punk can be booked as a damn good wrestler who out-wrestles his opponents. Does that mean Bryan can't be champion too? What about Eddie Guerrero? What about Chris Jericho and HBK?

May argue Jericho and Bryan have more "muscle mass", but they're in the same boat. Utter nonsense Dolph and you know it.

 

[Jose Tortilla]

Bryan is in a lot better shape then Punk. He has more muscle mass, but anyway Punk's look fits him. He's a regular guy in a land of super heroes and cowards.

Agreed about the muscle part.
But Bryan is so damn short!!:grin:

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Yes, it doesn't have to be a specific Vince McMahon mold. Punk can be booked as a damn good wrestler who out-wrestles his opponents. Does that mean Bryan can't be champion too? What about Eddie Guerrero? What about Chris Jericho and HBK?

May argue Jericho and Bryan have more "muscle mass", but they're in the same boat. Utter nonsense Dolph and you know it.

It's not utter nonsense. Jericho, Bryan, Eddie and every other example you could post all have better definition and/or more muscle mass than Punk. Does it mean he can't be world champion? Obviously not, it's just not ideal. If he were a few inches taller and lifted more weights he would be better off. How are you even denying this?

 

[Crayo]

It's not utter nonsense. Jericho, Bryan, Eddie and every other example you could post all have better definition and/or more muscle mass than Punk. Does it mean he can't be world champion? Obviously not, it's just not ideal. If he were a few inches taller and lifted more weights he would be better off. How are you even denying this?

I've not denied that he doesn't look like a muscle freak have I? It's just not a fault, it's not something he should work on and pretty much all his colleges agree with him. I don't look at Punk and think "Hmm, wish there was more veins and muscle" I admire his wrestling ability.

WWE shouldn't be about the Batistas, Cena's, Mason Ryans etc, I'd rather watch Punk than any of those. As I said, it's wrestling, in real life it's exactly the same - size doesn't matter (sex pun unintended) it's technique and ability.

As a UFC fan you should respect that. I admit, it's not "ideal" at all because there's some idiot casuals out there who'd say the same thing, but it's no way a fault of his. If anything, it's a plus that a guy looking like that can get where he is.

 

[Asskicker]

Yeah you aren't going around criticizing light heavyweight champions.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I've not denied that he doesn't look like a muscle freak have I? It's just not a fault, it's not something he should work on and pretty much all his colleges agree with him. I don't look at Punk and think "Hmm, wish there was more veins and muscle" I admire his wrestling ability.

WWE shouldn't be about the Batistas, Cena's, Mason Ryans etc, I'd rather watch Punk than any of those. As I said, it's wrestling, in real life it's exactly the same - size doesn't matter (sex pun unintended) it's technique and ability.

As a UFC fan you should respect that. I admit, it's not "ideal" at all because there's some idiot casuals out there who'd say the same thing, but it's no way a fault of his. If anything, it's a plus that a guy looking like that can get where he is.

You are starting to sound like Randy Savage. It's a fault, end of story. He would be much better off if he were taller, and he could easily work out more and not be such a skinny fatass. I understand everything else you are saying and if you don't care that he weighs 190 lbs it's fine. Just like it's fine if you don't care that he botches his finishing move more than anyone else in WWE. Or if you don't care that his spot calling is atrocious. They are all still things that aren't ideal, which is what we are discussing. How hard is this to grasp?

 

[Asskicker]

@[Dolph'sZiggler] Randy Savage doesn't argue points like that at all. He is very weak at most proving a point to the majority to us.

Or else I'm pretty sure you know amateur wrestling so you already should know size doesn't matter. Or else the only times I see him botch a GTS is on a big guy like Kane. Or else Vince is molding Punk to become a Cena each and every monday to the point where we start talking about Punk just like we talk about Cena.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

If you sat down and made a list of things that you want in a professional wrestler, eventually the look would come up, even if it's low on your list, it would be on the list.

 

[Crayo]

You are starting to sound like Randy Savage.

Going to break down your post in little segments. You're coming off so arrogant at the moment which I'm assuming is unintentional.

It's a fault, end of story.

And I'm the one who sounds like "Randy Savage"? It's not "end of story" at all. That my friend is arrogant.

He would be much better off if he were taller, and he could easily work out more and not be such a skinny fatass.

Perhaps if he worked out more and became more "toned" it'd help him, just because something helps someone it doesn't make it a fault. It'd help Ziggler if his hair didn't go from wet and pushed down into some girly manfro crap during a wrestling match, but it's not a fault of his. Being taller would reduce his ability in the ring so no, I disagree. He's taller than Jericho.

Just like it's fine if you don't care that he botches his finishing move more than anyone else in WWE.

Remember my comparison to JeebaK earlier? That was why. You're starting to post so much lies and made up crap on a regular basis. Yeah I'm sure Punk botches more than Mason Ryan. Sure, he botches GTS' more often than he should, that's a fault I've already listed. Don't over-exaggerate.

Or if you don't care that his spot calling is atrocious. They are all still things that aren't ideal, which is what we are discussing. How hard is this to grasp?

It's not atrocious at all, because he hides it it's bad? It's better than us hearing it, isn't that the point of hiding it? Jesus.

Discussing faults are different to discussing things that aren't ideal.

 

[Bort]

Punk doesn't look like a face of the company, he looks like someone who was just released from the jail or a drug rehab. :boss:

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'm done Crayo. I have no desire to post a novel message in response to you ignoring Punk's obvious short comings in the look department.