Brock vs Ambrose... That Was Seriously It?

[The GOAT]

Dean shouldn't be the guy to make Brock seem vincible

He's the "Lunatic Fringe" and he can use pretty any weapon he wants to, of course he should of. He already made Brock seem vincible once when he blasted him with a steel chair so many times the month before at Fast Lane that Lesnar couldn't make it back in the ring to break up the pinfall in time. Reigns, Taker, and the Wyatt Family have all made Brock seem "mortal" before already as well.

I wonder where Lesnar goes from here. They put this guy over so incredibly strong in 2014 to put Reigns over but you know the rest of that story. Now it's 2016, The Beast Incarnate is still invincible, but who are they going to put over him?

I assume they'll revisit Brock vs Bray Wyatt later on down the road in the Summer. I doubt the Wyatts attacking the LON was intended to be a face turn per se (although I didn't watch Smackdown, so I don't know how they followed up on it), so Heyman could address the issue Brock still has with the Wyatt Family when he returns seeing as how he would be WWE Champion right now if it wasn't for them (in Heyman's mind, of course.)

I'm sure Reigns is still the one favored to conquer The Beast when the time is right, but I don't ever see the time being right with that one. In the end, Brock's first loss post-Streak will probably disappointingly be at the hands of a part-timer or established star that doesn't need it and won't benefit from it. That's how these sort of things nearly always pan out, unfortunately. The Rock ended Punk's 434 day title reign, Cena ended Rusev and Bray's undefeated streaks, Lesnar ended The Undertaker's WM streak, Del Rio was the first to successfully answer John Cena's Open Challenge cleanly, etc.

 

[InSaNe]

I thought the exact same thing when I was watching the Brock vs Ambrose match. Fine, they want to be PG-13? But at least use a fucking weapon other than chairs and kendo sticks!

I was looking forward to Ambrose using the barbed wired bat, or a weapon they'd use to make Brock bleed. That would've made the match a little bit more exciting. Or use the hell in the cell structure, or something. The whole point of a Street Fight is to make the match more exciting! Geez, the concept isn't that hard to understand. WWE seems oblivious to the concept, or the ideals of the match.

Meh, who am I kidding, this is WWE. Nothing surprises me.

 

[alexb]

As most of you, I too was heavily dissapointed by how this match went down and as I noted the next day while rating the PPV overall, this was a street fight in which most of the action took place...inside the ring.

Apparently there are several reports out there that Dean Ambrose asked and insisted this match at Mania to get brutal and all but had his "request" turned down cause, I don't know, PG. If that is indeed the case, that's messed up as far as WWE is concerned since that excactly was what we were all expecting: a brutal match, some blood and them going at it all over the stadium with an extended use of any given weapons or other "toys" available. I mean, wasn't this what we were led to believe and expect to begin with during the buildup?

 

[World War Ziggler]

Completely agree. Massively underwhelming.

He teased a god damn chainsaw for crying out loud. :ambrose2:

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

That match was a fail, I could not believe it went down like that, it's like Vince wanted that to happen to bury Dean Ambrose.

 

[SWL]

according to rumors, Dean actually wanted to do way more but WWE declined because the spots Ambrose had planned were too dangerous. Sounds like Dean Ambrose tbf.

 

[The Gipper]

according to rumors, Dean actually wanted to do way more but WWE declined because the spots Ambrose had planned were too dangerous. Sounds like Dean Ambrose tbf.

so Shane jumping off the cell through a announce table with his kids watching! is accepted but not Deans plans...okay then

 

[SWL]

so Shane jumping off the cell through a announce table with his kids watching! is accepted but not Deans plans...okay then

I'm guessing Shane/Taker meant more to the company than Ambrose/Lesnar in terms of having the spot of the night.

 

[seabs]

so Shane jumping off the cell through a announce table with his kids watching! is accepted but not Deans plans...okay then

I think it's an issue of how easy it is to replicate. Kids aren't going to be jumping 20 foot for example, no idea why chairshots are allowed but that's what seems to be said in these situations.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I think it's an issue of how easy it is to replicate. Kids aren't going to be jumping 20 foot for example, no idea why chairshots are allowed but that's what seems to be said in these situations.

pussy kids these day. We did some wild ass spots when I was a lad

 

[seabs]

pussy kids these day. We did some wild ass spots when I was a lad

This explains a lot.

 

[Snowman1]

Don't even blame PG. We've seen plenty of street fights that were better than this.

I assume Vince felt it would be unnecessary for this to be any more extreme than it was, no need to beat yourselves up for this of all shows. And he'd be wrong.

Or maybe he was afraid that the hardcore stuff would overshadow Shane

 

[seabs]

Or maybe he was afraid that the hardcore stuff would overshadow Shane

I guess it could have worn the crowd out to an extent but what could they have done to overshadow the cell bump?

 

[Snowman1]

I guess it could have worn the crowd out to an extent but what could they have done to overshadow the cell bump?

Haha I'm just trying to guess Vince's mindset to relax. Know he's big on not wanting to oversaturate big spots but even if they recreate the band saw incident with the chainsaw (no please no!) It won't affect Shane's big jump at all since it's so much different. You're right

 

[Roadster]

I guess it could have worn the crowd out to an extent but what could they have done to overshadow the cell bump?

Two different spots. Having a crazy hardcore bump with a weapon and another having to do with heights and scale are two different things. Look at WrestleMania 22, you had Ric Flair being suplexed off of a ladder, Kurt Angle german suplexing both Rey Mysterio and Randy Orton, and then you had Edge spearing Foley through a burning table. Three completely different spots, that had three different effects and meanings. They didn't do damage to the crowds enthusiasm and actually pumped them up more.

I think Brock vs. Ambrose was never destined to be an extreme match. I think it was something as a drawing point, that for one reason or another failed to grasp the viewer. In my opinion, it was a waste of numerous Lesnar appearances, countless segments and minutes on RAW and WrestleMania alike and a lot of money. Like most of the things at this WrestleMania, it was just to increase interest, and not mean't for anything serious. Sasha Banks' push, Undertaker vs. Shane McMahon, Zack Ryder's IC title run.