Brock vs Ambrose... That Was Seriously It?

[seabs]

Two different spots. Having a crazy hardcore bump with a weapon and another having to do with heights and scale are two different things. Look at WrestleMania 22, you had Ric Flair being suplexed off of a ladder, Kurt Angle german suplexing both Rey Mysterio and Randy Orton, and then you had Edge spearing Foley through a burning table. Three completely different spots, that had three different effects and meanings. They didn't do damage to the crowds enthusiasm and actually pumped them up more.

No idea why I was quoted here bar the person who made the post but hey ho, you're comparing some pretty standard spots (a superplex off a ladder and a double suplex) alongside a regular spot with a twist (table spot on fire) compared to a huge spot in Shane's which needed a big reaction and god knows what Ambrose wanted to do (which we can only speculate.)

Say for example a chainsaw spot was planned where Ambrose would attempt to attack Brock, miss and end up tearing up the mat. I'm guessing that could well tire the crowd out before we get to Shane, the placings of the match could well have saved it but you can't say for certain. The odds on doing that spot are stupidly low but you get the idea, you can't dismiss it out of hand because some roughly connected event happened 10 years ago and was fine. After all I could say that super babyface booking should always work because it worked with Hogan 30 years ago, things don't always stay the same.

 

[Roadster]

The crowd aren't sheep. A missed chainsaw shot won't have them tired out for two matches. The crowd could handle some spots, and considering Taker v. Shane happened two matches afterwards, with a match that actually pumped up the crowd being the intermediate, those people could handle a spot. Besides, Hardcore spots in the WWE are rarely crowd drainers, and if they never even happened (referring to a theoretical missed chain saw) it won't hurt the crowd.

People are seeming to think that the crowd is some kind of animal, that gets tired over the slightest things. An intense match with lots of spots and a good story, slowly built to a big spot can drain the crowd (i.e Shawn vs. Taker I) but a crowd can handle anything less than that. Look at Punk v. Jericho going on just before Rock and Cena and the crowd was pumped for that match. The camera was shaking when Cena and Rock were just staring at eachother.

 

[seabs]

The crowd aren't sheep. A missed chainsaw shot won't have them tired out for two matches. The crowd could handle some spots, and considering Taker v. Shane happened two matches afterwards, with a match that actually pumped up the crowd being the intermediate, those people could handle a spot. Besides, Hardcore spots in the WWE are rarely crowd drainers, and if they never even happened (referring to a theoretical missed chain saw) it won't hurt the crowd.

People are seeming to think that the crowd is some kind of animal, that gets tired over the slightest things. An intense match with lots of spots and a good story, slowly built to a big spot can drain the crowd (i.e Shawn vs. Taker I) but a crowd can handle anything less than that. Look at Punk v. Jericho going on just before Rock and Cena and the crowd was pumped for that match. The camera was shaking when Cena and Rock were just staring at eachother.

Not really, all I'm saying is if you have multiple huge spots at one time it can weaken the impact of other spots (that's what I mean by tire the crowd out)

 

[Roadster]

I think fans are willing and able to experience more spots.

 

[seabs]

I think fans are willing and able to experience more spots.

Agree to disagree?