Best Heels Of All Time

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I would love to know who are the best heels of all time in your opinion. Most of you know your stuff and have been watching for a long time. When you look at heels that have been on such a hot streak on top, their aren't many on the CM Punk level. Other than Ric Flair, Randy Savage, and Vince McMahon are there any heels that you've seen cut such great promos and be such a great heel? Edge is another guy I can see up there but other than that I really can't think of anyone.

Help me out there instead of just hating on Punk. The guy is a mega star and is becoming one of the greatest of all time. What heels would you put up there with the greatest of all time.
 

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I will make serious points about heel history, if you don't describe CM Punk as a megastar, because he isn't.
 

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I will make serious points about heel history, if you don't describe CM Punk as a megastar, because he isn't.
But, but, but 400+ days!!!
 

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Rick Rude, Mr. perfect, Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff were all terrific heels due to their arrogance and smug opinion of the audience.... Bobby "the Brain" Heenan was amazing as both a heel manager and I'd say even better as a heel broadcaster... Currently Randy Orton has always worked very well as a heel and I've never enjoyed anything of his as a face. In the attitude era guys switched back and forth so damn much that nobody really stood out as primarily a Heel (maybe Kane or Mankind??)....
 
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Depends.

I'm not way too familiar with old school wrestling, WWE is a very old company and the older wrestlers were way before my time anyway....I began watching when the "Attitude era" was at it's peak, with some glimpses into WWE's history, not detailed enough to make informed judgements. But in the modern era, i.e late 90's-after 2000, some of the heels that really made an impression (to me, from my completely subjective standpoint, were Evolution, The Corporation, The Power Trip, Eddie Guerrero; specifically the Guerrero that flipped on Mysterio and...Chris Jericho.)

Honorable mentions go to John Cena and Randy Orton. Orton by himself is just not as memorable as Orton with Evolution. (Yeah....he can shave his head, get more tattoos, try to grow a beard...attach a pseudo SCSA nickname...it's just not the same. Merely after thoughts in comparison to the other names on the list.)

And yes, I did say 90's-post 2000, just to clarify so that purists don't go berserk on me.

I like CM Punk, but come on, Jericho and Guerrero own him in multiple ways. I still get goosebumps when I remember the time Jericho turned heel on Michaels in....08' was it? Wow.

Chris Jericho said:
"You wanna lie to me, this is all your fault...this is all your fault. The worst, is YET TO COME."

:y:
 
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Undertaker
Hollywood Hogan
Andre the Giant
The Freebirds
Brock Lesnar
Roddy Piper
The Rock
Nikoli Volkov
JBL

Just to name a few of my fav's.

The only wrestler of the modern era I would consider a "great heel" is Brock Lesnar tbh. He was the last guy that really got legit heat the old fashioned way and was disliked just for what he did in the ring. That kind of thing doesn't exist anymore. Too many people like wrestlers just because they go against the grain of the family-friendly aura WWE projects with it's babyfaces. Edge is a clear-cut example. The guy was never a "great heel" by any means because too many people cheered for him and they only did it because he feuded with Cena. They also made him entirely too "cool" and it was too easy to take his side.

Lesnar did it the right way though. He completely dominated and buried people like The Rock and The Undertaker, people that fans had cheered for their whole lives, so he wasn't somebody you wanted to cheer for. The heels today flip flop back and forth between heel and face so goddamed much I can't even tell when they make the swerve most of the time, particularly people like Randy Orton and CM Punk.

JBL was another notable recent example, but he relied on cheep heat a LOT. That doesn't mean I didn't find him to be a great heel, just that he was more of a one-trick pony. If he had stopped talking, I doubt anyone would have cared about him enough to hate him considering no one did care about him the rest of his career before that run. Great promo guy though.

The other guys I listed are just obvious because they're the guys everyone tries to emulate these days anyways.
 
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Oh yeah. Completely forgot Brock Lesnar.

Didn't the crowd turn on Rock when Lesnar won the title once in 2002 despite the fact that Rock was supposed to be the baby face anyway?
 

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Oh yeah. Completely forgot Brock Lesnar.

Didn't the crowd turn on Rock when Lesnar won the title once in 2002 despite the fact that Rock was supposed to be the baby face anyway?

Mainly because stupid rasslin fans thought their Rocky was turning his back on them for Hollywood. Same shit people have been crying about ever since, and lol @ them for thinking Lesnar was going to be the loyalist who wouldn't go anywhere.

The best heel was the one guy who brought it mainstream first. Gorgeous George. The next best one was the guy who had heat from everyone for the majority of his career. Vince McMahon.
 

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I am a Sucka for Austin's heel run in 2001, but lets be honest Flair was born to be a heel.
 

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In the years I've been watching, Vince McMahon or Triple H circa 2000.
 

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Owen Hart in either his Slammy winner gimmick or circa 1997 after he broke Austin's neck.

Obvious mention of Jake Roberts during the Savage feud too.
 

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Austin circa 2001
Hemsley-McMahon regime
Hogan in '96 when he turned
Ric Flair was a natural heel
Hollywood Rock was extremely entertaining

Just to name a few
 

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I'll just cite the results of our greatest heel of all time tournament we ran a couple months back.

Quadrant 1
1. Vince McMahon vs 16.Linda McMahon
2. Bobby Heenan vs 15. Mr. Kennedy/Mr. Anderson
3. Roddy Piper vs 14. Great Muta
4. Christian vs 13. Steve Corino
5. Alberto Del Rio vs 12. Big Show/Giant
6. Iron Sheik vs 11. Bill Alfonso
7. Bret Hart vs 10. Terry Gordy
8. Sensational Sherri vs 9. Nick Bockwinkel

Quadrant 2
1. Triple H vs 16. Gorilla Monsoon
2. Undertaker vs 15. Chris Candido
3. Michael Cole vs 14. Pat Patterson
4. Kevin Nash/ Diesel vs 13. Bam Bam Bigelow
5. Mark Henry vs 12. Barry Windham
6. Billy Graham vs 11. Paul Orndorff
7. Miz vs 10. Kevin Sullivan
8.Abdullah The Butcher vs 9. King Booker/ Booker T

Quadrant 3
1. Hulk Hogan vs 16. Jeff Hardy
2. Kurt Angle vs 15. Austin Aries
3. Rick Rude vs 14. Ray Stevens
4. Batista vs 13. DDP
5. X-Pac vs 12. Taz
6. Stephanie McMahon vs 11. Scott Steiner
7. Owen Hart vs 10. Larry Zbyszko
8. Jerry Lawler vs 9. Mick Foley

Quadrant 4
1. The Rock vs 16.John Cena
2. Vickie Guerrero vs 15. Test
3. Jake Roberts vs 14. Wade Barrett
4. Yokozuna vs 13. Chris Benoit
5. Sheamus vs 12. Mike Awesome
6. Jeff Jarrett vs 11. Rick Martel
7. Jimmy Hart vs 10. Adrian Adonis
8. The Sheik vs 9. Goldust

Quadrant 5
1. Edge vs 16. Robert Roode
2. JBL vs. 15 Chris Masters
3. Scott Hall/ Razor Ramon vs 14. Chavo Guerrero
4. Andy Kauffman vs 13. Lance Storm
5. Vince Russo vs 12. Jonathan Coachman
6. Jim Cornette vs 11. Cody Rhodes
7. Stan Hansen vs 10. Bruiser Brody
8. Michael Hayes vs 9. Raven

Quadrant 6
1. Chris Jericho vs 16. James Storm
2. CM Punk vs 15.Carlito
3. Steve Austin vs 14. Scott D'Amore
4. Paul Heyman/ Paul E. Dangerously vs 13. Dolph Ziggler
5. Freddie Blassie vs 12.Bully Ray
6. Tully Blanchard vs 11. Sgt. Slaughter
7. Dick Murdoch vs 10. Jesse Ventura
8.Mr Fuji vs 9. Eddie Guerrero

Quadrant 7
1. Ted DiBiase vs 16. Kevin Steen
2. Ric Flair vs 15. The Brian Kendrick
3. William Regal vs 14. Faarooq
4. Andre The Giant vs 13. I.R.S.
5. Randy Savage vs 12. Sid
6. Vader vs 11. Kane
7. Harley Race vs 10. Shane McMahon
8. Brian Pillman vs 9. Nikolai Volkoff

Quadrant 8
1.Mr. Perfect vs 16. Rick Steiner
2. Randy Orton vs 15. Brock Lesnar
3. Eric Bischoff vs 14. Eddie Gilbert
4. Shawn Michaels vs 13. Awesome Kong
5. Honky Tonk Man vs 12. Stevie Richards
6. Terry Funk vs 11.Skandor Akbar
7. JJ Dillon vs 10. Ivan Koloff
8. Arn Anderson vs 9. Shane Douglas

Round 2

Quadrant 1
1. Vince McMahon vs 9 Nick Bockwinkel
2. Bobby Heenan vs 10 Terry Gordy
3.Roddy Piper vs 6 Iron Sheik
4. Christian vs 12 Big Show/Giant

Quadrant 2
1. Triple H vs 8 Abdullah The Butcher
2. Undertaker vs 10 Kevin Sullivan
14. Pat Patterson vs 6 Billy Graham
4. Kevin Nash vs 5 Mark Henry

Quadrant 3
1. Hulk Hogan vs 9 Mick Foley
2. Kurt Angle vs 7 Owen Hart
3. Rick Rude vs 6 Stephanie McMahon
4. Batista vs 12 Taz

Quadrant 4
1. The Rock vs 8 The Sheik
2. Vickie Guerrero vs 7 Jimmy Hart
3. Jake Roberts vs 6 Jeff Jarrett
13. Chris Benoit vs 12 Mike Awesome

Quadrant 5
1. Edge vs 9 Raven
2. JBL vs 7 Stan Hansen
3. Scott Hall/ Razor Ramon vs 6 Jim Cornette
4. Andy Kaufman vs 5 Vince Russo

Quadrant 6
1. Chris Jericho vs 9 Eddie Guerrero
2. CM Punk vs 10 Jesse Ventura
3. Steve Austin vs 11 Sgt. Slaughter
4.Paul Heyman vs 5 Freddie Blassie vs 12 Bully Ray

Quadrant 7
1. Ted DiBiase vs 8 Brian Pillman
2. Ric Flair vs 7 Harley Race
3. William Regal vs 11 Kane
4. Andre The Giant vs 5 Randy Savage

Quadrant 8
1. Mr Perfect vs 8 Arn Anderson
2. Randy Orton vs 10 Ivan Koloff
3. Eric Bischoff vs 6 Terry Funk
4. Shawn Michaels vs 5 Honky Tonk Man vs 12 Stevie Richards

Round 3

Quadrant 1
1. Vince McMahon vs 4 Christian
2. Bobby Heenan vs 3 Roddy Piper

Quadrant 2
1. Triple H vs 4. Kevin Nash
2. Undertaker vs 6 Billy Graham

Quadrant 3
1. Hulk Hogan vs 12 Taz
2. Kurt Angle vs 3 Rick Rude

Quadrant 4
1. The Rock vs 12 Mike Awesome
7. Jimmy Hart vs 3 Jake Roberts

Quadrant 5
9.Raven vs 5 Vince Russo
2. JBL vs 3 Scott Hall vs 6 Jim Cornette

Quadrant 6
1. Chris Jericho vs 4 Paul Heyman
2. CM Punk vs 3 Steve Austin

Quadrant 7
1. Ted Dibiase vs 5 Randy Savage
2.Ric Flair vs 11 Kane

Quadrant 8
1. Mr Perfect vs 4 Shawn Michaels
2.Randy Orton vs 6 Terry Funk

Sweet 17

Quadrant 1
1. Vince McMahon vs 3 Roddy Piper

Quadrant 2
1. Triple H vs 2 Undertaker

Quadrant 3
1. Hulk Hogan vs 3 Rick Rude

Quadrant 4
1. The Rock vs 3 Jake Roberts

Quadrant 5
9. Raven vs 2 JBL

Quadrant 6
1. Chris Jericho vs 2 CM Punk

Quadrant 7
1. Ted DiBiase vs 5 Randy Savage vs 2 Ric Flair

Quadrant 8
4. Shawn Michaels vs 2. Randy Orton

Elite 8

1. Vince McMahon vs 8. Randy Orton

2. Triple H vs 7. Ric Flair

3. Hulk Hogan vs 6. Chris Jericho

4. Jake Roberts vs 5. JBL

Final Four
1. Vince McMahon vs 4. Jake Roberts

2. Ric Flair vs 3. Chris Jericho

Final
1. Vince McMahon vs 2. Ric Flair
 

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Vince did have his moments.

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