Battleground Battleground Match Card and Live Discussion

[Prince Bálor]

The Taker feud was forced, plain and simple. Undertaker wrestled at WM because it was a must, not because he was anywhere near 100%.

Sure, I get that... But they could have, at least, had them show up every week and do their stuff, to make stuff more interesting 'cause the match at WM30 was gonna be Taker's last (most likely).

 

[Prince Bálor]

When Kane cashed on Rey Mysterio in 2010, I believe both were babyfaces.
Bryan also cashed in on Big Show in 2011, while both were babyfaces.
CM Punk cashed in on Jeff Hardy in 2009, while both were babyfaces

Coincidentally, they each turned shortly thereafter.

I'd have no problem with either Rollins or Ambrose cashing in on Lesnar or Cena or whoever'll be the champion at the time.

 

[Snowman1]

When Kane cashed on Rey Mysterio in 2010, I believe both were babyfaces.
Bryan also cashed in on Big Show in 2011, while both were babyfaces.
CM Punk cashed in on Jeff Hardy in 2009, while both were babyfaces

Coincidentally, they each turned shortly thereafter.

Good analysis, dumb statement by me. As usual. 1:

Each of those were done to push a story forward or create one, while Rollins cashing in on Lesnar after a match with Cena... Don't know what it is, but I just can't see it happening.

It seems like they have to get Lesnar to work NoC as champ, that's when the Network renewals are coming so they need all the star power they can get for that show, and also work Survivor Series at the very least. With the renewals coming up they can't let Cena go over Lesnar. They just can't.

Anyway back on topic for this main event, the only thing that can really come out of it is build for Reigns vs whoever he faces at Summerslam (probably Triple H). Nobody else matters. So I'm calling typical Authority shenanigans when Triple H realizes "Oh, shit! I put Roman Reigns in the main event!" and he runs out to screw over Roman in some way. Then Cena wins and Hunter looks on with a typical "Gosh darnit" face even though deep down he doesn't really care before getting speared off the stage Eddie Edwards style. :dawg:

 

[Prince Bálor]

Cena will not go over Lesnar. Lesnar beat the streak, FFS. He's basically guaranteed the WWE-WHC match and he'll win it, most likely.

During the ME, we sure as hell can expect the Authority to get involved, as well as in Rollins vs Ambrose match. If, however, Brock doesn't return at Battleground, then I don't have a clue when he will.

 

[Just Kevin]

Cena will not go over Lesnar. Lesnar beat the streak, FFS. He's basically guaranteed the WWE-WHC match and he'll win it, most likely.

During the ME, we sure as hell can expect the Authority to get involved, as well as in Rollins vs Ambrose match. If, however, Brock doesn't return at Battleground, then I don't have a clue when he will.

If Brock doesn't return at Battleground then safe bet is that he returns the next night... being that Summerslam is the next PPV they need to get the build going... I say Cena retains and opens RAW the next night and Brock returns to confront him.

 

[Prince Bálor]

If Brock doesn't return at Battleground then safe bet is that he returns the next night... being that Summerslam is the next PPV they need to get the build going... I say Cena retains and opens RAW the next night and Brock returns to confront him.

And gives him an F5... Fine by me.

 

[Leo C]

Good analysis, dumb statement by me. As usual. 1:

Each of those were done to push a story forward or create one, while Rollins cashing in on Lesnar after a match with Cena... Don't know what it is, but I just can't see it happening.

It seems like they have to get Lesnar to work NoC as champ, that's when the Network renewals are coming so they need all the star power they can get for that show, and also work Survivor Series at the very least. With the renewals coming up they can't let Cena go over Lesnar. They just can't.

Anyway back on topic for this main event, the only thing that can really come out of it is build for Reigns vs whoever he faces at Summerslam (probably Triple H). Nobody else matters. So I'm calling typical Authority shenanigans when Triple H realizes "Oh, shit! I put Roman Reigns in the main event!" and he runs out to screw over Roman in some way. Then Cena wins and Hunter looks on with a typical "Gosh darnit" face even though deep down he doesn't really care before getting speared off the stage Eddie Edwards style. :dawg:

Davey was the one who was speared.

 

[Snowman1]

Thought it was Eddie who took the spear then valiantly came back later to brawl with KK...

Yeah, you're right, that's why Eddie was on his lonesome. Leo 1 Snow 0

 

[Leo C]

Thought it was Eddie who took the spear then valiantly came back later to brawl with KK...

Yeah, you're right, that's why Eddie was on his lonesome. Leo 1 Snow 0

Yeah, Eddie was fine when he went to brawl with KK. Then he was beat up :dawg:

 

[The GOAT]

I'd have no problem with either Rollins or Ambrose cashing in on Lesnar or Cena or whoever'll be the champion at the time.

Rollins cashing in on Brock would be incredibly dumb imo. There's situations where a heel cashing on a heel could work, but I'm just not feeling it with this one.

Someone on another forum had an idea that could happen - Lesnar winning the title and then laying down for Rollins the next night on Raw. It sounds ridiculous, I know, but on the other hand, it sounds vaguely possible. Hunter's comment to Cena a couple of weeks back about having a "Plan B" if Cena is still the champion when Battleground is over was obviously meant to be interpreted as Rollins cashing in since Seth's music hit a few moments later, but I think most of us who've heard the rumors of Cena/Brock for Summerslam assumed he was actually talking about Brock Lesnar being his next opponent. It could turn out to be both - if Hunter uses Brock as a weapon and hired mercenary to take down Cena for The Authority, he might be more than willing to lay down for Rollins as well. I really question if it would be consistent with Brock's persona as an ass-kicker and beast to just lay down for someone else, but perhaps his attitude is that he can always easily win the world title again later on when he feels like it and thus doesn't mind doing dirty work for The Authority in this instance.

Even then, I can't see Brock not wrestling on the Night Of Champions card given (as mentioned) that September is the month that subscription renewals for the Network happen, and him laying down for Rollins by then wouldn't make sense.

 

[Swift]

Somebody is in an unusually hateful mood today. Your posts are funnier today, but ouch.

Just being honest :tyson:

 

[Red Rain]

Good analysis, dumb statement by me. As usual. 1:

Each of those were done to push a story forward or create one, while Rollins cashing in on Lesnar after a match with Cena... Don't know what it is, but I just can't see it happening.

It seems like they have to get Lesnar to work NoC as champ, that's when the Network renewals are coming so they need all the star power they can get for that show, and also work Survivor Series at the very least. With the renewals coming up they can't let Cena go over Lesnar. They just can't.

Anyway back on topic for this main event, the only thing that can really come out of it is build for Reigns vs whoever he faces at Summerslam (probably Triple H). Nobody else matters. So I'm calling typical Authority shenanigans when Triple H realizes "Oh, shit! I put Roman Reigns in the main event!" and he runs out to screw over Roman in some way. Then Cena wins and Hunter looks on with a typical "Gosh darnit" face even though deep down he doesn't really care before getting speared off the stage Eddie Edwards style. :dawg:

It's basically the same principle. Those cash-ins led to turns, so, in WWE"s mind, they were, in fact, heels.

 

[Red Rain]

Rollins cashing in on Brock would be incredibly dumb imo. There's situations where a heel cashing on a heel could work, but I'm just not feeling it with this one.

Someone on another forum had an idea that could happen - Lesnar winning the title and then laying down for Rollins the next night on Raw. It sounds ridiculous, I know, but on the other hand, it sounds vaguely possible. Hunter's comment to Cena a couple of weeks back about having a "Plan B" if Cena is still the champion when Battleground is over was obviously meant to be interpreted as Rollins cashing in since Seth's music hit a few moments later, but I think most of us who've heard the rumors of Cena/Brock for Summerslam assumed he was actually talking about Brock Lesnar being his next opponent. It could turn out to be both - if Hunter uses Brock as a weapon and hired mercenary to take down Cena for The Authority, he might be more than willing to lay down for Rollins as well. I really question if it would be consistent with Brock's persona as an ass-kicker and beast to just lay down for someone else, but perhaps his attitude is that he can always easily win the world title again later on when he feels like it and thus doesn't mind doing dirty work for The Authority in this instance.

Even then, I can't see Brock not wrestling on the Night Of Champions card given (as mentioned) that September is the month that subscription renewals for the Network happen, and him laying down for Rollins by then wouldn't make sense.

I'd wonder if that's a wise move. I'm not going to go 'fingerpoke of doom' here, but the MITB briefcase ought to keep its prestige.
I realize how hypocritical prestige is for the briefcase, but blatantly lying down for Rollins seems asinine.
I'm not attacking the idea, rather, I'm attacking the execution. I don't believe lying down in a World title match is acceptable.
It was unacceptable when HBK laid down for HHH in '97 and showed WWE didn't care about the da** thing.

The idea is great, in any other circumstance outside a major title changing hands.

 

[Snowman1]

But what if they justify it as Triple H paying off Lesnar? Even in kayfabe I can kinda see the Lesnar character taking the money.

 

[Just Kevin]

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