This will be the last thing I have to say about queering. About a month ago I attended a mission held by a Franciscan Monk covering the Last Four Things; death, judgment, heaven and hell. And no one here is going to tell me differently, this Father spent 20 plus years in Franciscan monasteries and so many years in Rome, so there isn't a single one of us that can even debate what he preached. First thing he said is that queering is a mortal sin, worse than murder. Second, it's in the bible, the true bible, not the nonsensical King James version that has 13 books missing. Third, you do rot in hell for queering. And you should scorn the queers, just as you would the pagans, devil worshipers and non believers. And you should pray for them, but not have sympathy.
I'm not saying this for the convenience of an argument, this is actual Church followed protocol and practiced since the Church was formed. So people shouldn't be bringing the biblical stuff into play because it's stated in the bible that it's a sin, that you will rot in hell and that marriage is between a man and a woman. I hate to be so closed minded to it, but after hearing it basically from the horses mouth, there really isn't any going back for me.
And really, anyone who wants to chime in about religion do it in a civil, intelligent manner. No faggy "religion. LOLZ" bullshit. Want to do that, take it to HIAT.
It looks more like a case of brainwashing =) I clearly provided links with biblical scholars and historians who clearly show that homosexuality is not a sin, and you haven't been able to refute any of the information in there. I have examined both sides of the story, and here is the conclusions i came up with:
-One side (the anti-gay side) cherry-picks lines, takes them out of context, and just says it's wrong with no evidence.
They even added the word "homosexual," a word that wasn't even used this way till the 1800's.
-The other side actually looks at and relates the historical times, provides plenty of evidence using the Bible itself, looks at the Bible as a whole, relates the context to other lines and passages, interprets them properly, doesn't distort their meaning, translates the Greek words properly and sees how they are used in various locations of the Bible to get a clear definition, and provides sufficient evidence.
It's easy to see why the latter wins out.
Also, just because the church heavily favors something now, doesn't mean they will always do so, and doesn't mean they are right. For thousands of years the church believed the world was flat. For hundreds of years they murdered hundreds of scientists who opposed their views because it was contrary to what was in the Bible. For hundreds of years people in the United States cited this passage
Genesis 9:25
"And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren"
to prove that people of African descent are under a special curse from God. It is stated that in fulfillment of this curse, God intends for black people to serve whites, or at least be subservient to them. This passage was cited for hundreds of years to condone slavery, racial segregation, and keep interracial marriage down.
