BACKSTAGE UPDATE ON MAIN WWE ROSTER BEING FRUSTRATED AFTER NXT TAKEOVER: R EVOLUTION

[Jacob Fox]

Although now I want to add, story lines are very important in wrestling and pretty much always have been. But the stories that are told now use a maximum of time with a minimum of actual story.

Some of the most effective stories have been told with a lot less time. Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant, one of the WWF's best stories ever, didn't need to take up 20 minutes of every program to get the point across. Not everything needs to be a super long promo. A good story can be told with short interviews. The actual wrestling match can further the story and good commentators do the same.

Back in the 1980's and early 1990's, it was well known that Vince McMahon discouraged long matches. I recall in Flair's book, he mentioned his frustration at being able to perform well since Vince wanted match time to average about 8 minutes. He had requested to be an early draw in the 1992 Royal Rumble because he wanted to demonstrate to WWF fans who hadn't seen him before what he could do in the ring. Vince didn't want a number one or number two seed, since they were essentially identical to win, so he let Flair enter at 3. From that point, Ric Flair, Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon told one of the most compelling wrestling stories of all time (in my opinion).

But my original point wasn't the Flair match, just that McMahon has always had a preference for short matches. Watch any wrestling show and gauge fan reaction between the short matches and the longer matches and the longer matches are the ones the crowd gets more ecstatic about.

 

[Leo C]

Although now I want to add, story lines are very important in wrestling and pretty much always have been. But the stories that are told now use a maximum of time with a minimum of actual story.

Some of the most effective stories have been told with a lot less time. Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant, one of the WWF's best stories ever, didn't need to take up 20 minutes of every program to get the point across. Not everything needs to be a super long promo. A good story can be told with short interviews. The actual wrestling match can further the story and good commentators do the same.

Back in the 1980's and early 1990's, it was well known that Vince McMahon discouraged long matches. I recall in Flair's book, he mentioned his frustration at being able to perform well since Vince wanted match time to average about 8 minutes. He had requested to be an early draw in the 1992 Royal Rumble because he wanted to demonstrate to WWF fans who hadn't seen him before what he could do in the ring. Vince didn't want a number one or number two seed, since they were essentially identical to win, so he let Flair enter at 3. From that point, Ric Flair, Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon told one of the most compelling wrestling stories of all time (in my opinion).

But my original point wasn't the Flair match, just that McMahon has always had a preference for short matches. Watch any wrestling show and gauge fan reaction between the short matches and the longer matches and the longer matches are the ones the crowd gets more ecstatic about.

Really like what you said about taking as much time as possible to tell as poor a story as possible. They talk and talk and talk for hours on Raw (those opening promos, ugh) and it means nothing.

 

[Red Rain]

Really like what you said about taking as much time as possible to tell as poor a story as possible. They talk and talk and talk for hours on Raw (those opening promos, ugh) and it means nothing.

Although, when HHH gets good and ready his promos are a mouthful.
HHH can essentially say whatever he likes. Anything he says will have meaning.
'Always have a Plan B', 'Those who don't adapt will perish, etc. HHH is the one guy who, if he says something, it is very significant and not just hot air.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Although, when HHH gets good and ready his promos are a mouthful.
HHH can essentially say whatever he likes. Anything he says will have meaning.
'Always have a Plan B', 'Those who don't adapt will perish, etc. HHH is the one guy who, if he says something, it is very significant and not just hot air.

Correct.

HHH's Authority promos have never bored me. Steph was good, too... As well as working the crowd, I guess that's a good genetic thing she's got from Vince.

 

[Red Rain]

I don't think HHH and Steph would be linked genetically.

 

[Jacob Fox]

Gotta add my name to the HHH good promo train here. I agree fully.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I don't think HHH and Steph would be linked genetically.

Ugh, fixed it. That came off a bit cheesy and vague, it was a silly mistake on my part.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Gotta add my name to the HHH good promo train here. I agree fully.

Yeah, the King of Kings rules!

 

[Red Rain]

Ignoring or glossing over any HHH promo is silly.
In fact, I wouldn't be hard-pressed to take notes during his promos.
Every promo he's done since main eventing contain clues to the next PPV and moving forward.

It's like HHH foretells the future with his work on the stick. Scratch that, it's exactly what he does.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Ignoring or glossing over any HHH promo is silly.
In fact, I wouldn't be hard-pressed to take notes during his promos.
Every promo he's done since main eventing contain clues to the next PPV and moving forward.

It's like HHH foretells the future with his work on the stick. Scratch that, it's exactly what he does.

I agree here, 110%.

HHH is one of those people that you just can't wait to grab a mic and listen to what they have to say.
I feel the same way about Heyman and Ambrose. All these guys are so slick and intelligent!

 

[Red Rain]

Those are good choices.
All I know, for sure, is that whenever HHH singles people out you can believe 'something' will happen.
Dolph Ziggler, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, MVP, Sheamus and the list goes on and on.
It isn't always something good, but you can believe your life will change when HHH includes you in a promo.

I'm not calling him the best, but he's the only guy in the business whose promos basically control the landscape of the entire company.

 

[Leo C]

Although, when HHH gets good and ready his promos are a mouthful.
HHH can essentially say whatever he likes. Anything he says will have meaning.
'Always have a Plan B', 'Those who don't adapt will perish, etc. HHH is the one guy who, if he says something, it is very significant and not just hot air.

Certainly. I'm an HHH fan, and Hunter is indeed able to cut a great promo. Those are pretty good examples to make the point, actually. "Those who don't adapt will perish" was a perfect closing line for a promo on the Shield during that Evolution feud, no doubt. But is it necessary to have 20 minutes of talking beforehand? I don't think so. The actual Evolution promos I can't remember how they were, bad memory, but I know for sure that we did not have to watch the Authority open the show with long promos for a year or however long it was. HHH and Steph are great mic workers, I do love their promos also, but they would just come out and talk, and talk, and talk, and most of the time (not always), there was not much point to it.

 

[Wacokid27]

In discussing the awesomeness of HHH's promos, let's not forget this is not a new development.

After all, he is the fuckin' game.



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[C.M. Shaddix]

Haha well it is true, I mean R Evolution was crazy as fuck. WWE crew is saying they have more potential? Then show it then? Why would management stop you? Once more of these guys on the NXT roster are called up WWE will be the better show, unless management makes the new talent stupid. *Cough* Adam Rose and Bo Dallas *cough*