AEW All Out 2022 Media Scrum and fallout Megathread *DYNAMITE SPOILERS*

[Comrade Khan]

oh punk u idiot

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Now I’m not so sure if I believe Jericho hasn’t leaked anything. I can buy the Bucks(tho as I’ve said always, just because you say it wasn’t someone who told you doesn’t make it true) but Jericho I mean, definitely feel he’s leaked shit.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Now I’m not so sure if I believe Jericho hasn’t leaked anything. I can buy the Bucks(tho as I’ve said always, just because you say it wasn’t someone who told you doesn’t make it true) but Jericho I mean, definitely feel he’s leaked shit.

didn't say Jericho didn't leak anything, he's saying jericho didn't leak THIS and that he (alvarez) also heard this story, and not from Jericho.

this next part is not directed at you at all but

MEDIA LITERACY

 

[Comrade Khan]

and ya, both SRS and Meltzer have both said over and over and over The Bucks didn't leak that shit and that they basically just followed up on swirling rumors. Alvarez point is valid, it's Punk making assumptions and having a meltdown without proof while burning another bridge. shit is like groundhog day at this point, he just can't seem to help himself. Idk why he can't just see rumors, go lol, and move on with his day. I guess his ego can't handle it. it's wrestling after all

 

[Hidden Blaze]

didn't say Jericho didn't leak anything, he's saying jericho didn't leak THIS and that he (alvarez) also heard this story, and not from Jericho.

this next part is not directed at you at all but

MEDIA LITERACY

Ah well guess I misunderstood because definitely sounded like that to me. because I was going to call BS. Which if he lied I wouldn’t blame him by the way. You never ever out a source. So I personally would say someone didn’t leak me anything, even if they did

 

[Comrade Khan]

Ah well guess I misunderstood because definitely sounded like that to me. because I was going to call BS. Which if he lied I wouldn’t blame him by the way. You never ever out a source. So I personally would say someone didn’t leak me anything, even if they did

well usually if you want to protect a source you wouldn't be like "x is not my source guys, stop asking" , you would just...not ever address it since no one is going to hold the accountable anyways, yknow?

 

[Comrade Khan]

mind you, reminder: these are NOT journalists , they are reporters

 

[Comrade Khan]

Fightful - Huge update on CM Punk​

CM Punk confirmed a Fightful Select report from last fall that Jon Moxley pitched the idea of CM Punk losing in a quick match before their All Out match. Those familiar with the situation say that Punk had communicated that he wasn't comfortable competing in any capacity without being cleared first for the August 24 match. There had been issues regarding the creative throughout the build to the match, and Fightful had reported that there were concerns that Punk wouldn't be at the August 17 Dynamite, as well. However, we're told that special travel arrangements were made to accommodate Punk the day of the match, and Punk had at least floated the idea of additional reimbursement for the match, as he was working without being cleared, per his claims. We've heard subsequently, Jon Moxley and Punk have appeared to have heat, based on those that Moxley has spoken to after Brawl Out. Moxley helped lead a locker room meeting in the days after with Chris Jericho, who was also called "a liar and a stooge" in the Punk IG post. Bryan Danielson also led the meeting, but wasn't mentioned, and we haven't heard of any heat between Danielson and Punk. Jericho and Punk shouted at each other after the Brawl Out fight took place, with Jericho calling Punk "a cancer," and Punk shouting back at Jericho. Those in AEW believe that if things came down to a "Moxley or Punk" situation, that AEW would pick Moxley in that decision. Punk is very aware of the heat on him, and the possibility of talent walking out should he return, but we haven't heard his feelings on it. Some of the heat has certainly died down since All Out 2022, but there's plenty that still remains.

AEW and CM Punk have had some contact. In fact, some close to Punk claim that he and Tony Khan have "spoken or had a couple of meetings," though we aren't sure what, if anything came of them. We do know there was a planned meeting for mid-February that was delayed, supposedly due to Jerry Jarrett's funeral. At one point those close to Punk believed that he wanted out of his contract without a non- compete attached, however in recent weeks they believed that Punk was open to returning to AEW, and even wanted to. In an important note, at least one person claimed that Punk was willing to apologize for the scrum portion of the All Out evening. There was a lot of context absent from that claim - specifically to whom, or whether it'd be publicly or privately. Several people said that Punk has expressed some form of regret for aspect of that night in general. Sources said that Punk was originally considering the potential of legal action, but haven't heard anything about that being broached in months. In fact, those that we spoke with felt like there had been "productive progression" in the opposite direction. However, sources within AEW that we spoke to lost confidence that Punk would be returning after the March 23 post. Punk does remain under contract with AEW. We've inquired as to whether or not there was ever a suspension or pay docking involved, but traditionally AEW has paid out wrestlers while they're injured regardless.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

well usually if you want to protect a source you wouldn't be like "x is not my source guys, stop asking" , you would just...not ever address it since no one is going to hold the accountable anyways, yknow?

That’s a fair point I think to an extent. If it’s something that isn’t to out of hand anyway. I guess honestly the best way to go about it is to just never address it, rather it is or isn’t. Just say that you don’t talk about your sources to protect them, and you won’t ever confirm or deny anyone. Because if you only ever deny, then when you don’t address it then that looks bad on whoever is being accused. So yeah, best route is never say anything.

 

[Comrade Khan]

That’s a fair point I think to an extent. If it’s something that isn’t to out of hand anyway. I guess honestly the best way to go about it is to just never address it, rather it is or isn’t. Just say that you don’t talk about your sources to protect them, and you won’t ever confirm or deny anyone. Because if you only ever deny, then when you don’t address it then that looks bad on whoever is being accused. So yeah, best route is never say anything.

fwiw, I am by no means saying Jericho is not or has not been a source to them, I just want to make it clear I am not taking sides lol

 

[Chris]

well usually if you want to protect a source you wouldn't be like "x is not my source guys, stop asking" , you would just...not ever address it since no one is going to hold the accountable anyways, yknow?

I would say normally yes and this is what they should do but Alvarez, Meltzer and even SRS are not the type I'd expect to do this lol all 3 can be defensive about their own reporting pretty hard

 

[Comrade Khan]

So since Punk has had heat with -
Hangman
Bucks and Kenny
Colt
Mox
Jericho

Any one else? That's in less than 2 years too

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Fightful - Huge update on CM Punk​

CM Punk confirmed a Fightful Select report from last fall that Jon Moxley pitched the idea of CM Punk losing in a quick match before their All Out match. Those familiar with the situation say that Punk had communicated that he wasn't comfortable competing in any capacity without being cleared first for the August 24 match. There had been issues regarding the creative throughout the build to the match, and Fightful had reported that there were concerns that Punk wouldn't be at the August 17 Dynamite, as well. However, we're told that special travel arrangements were made to accommodate Punk the day of the match, and Punk had at least floated the idea of additional reimbursement for the match, as he was working without being cleared, per his claims. We've heard subsequently, Jon Moxley and Punk have appeared to have heat, based on those that Moxley has spoken to after Brawl Out. Moxley helped lead a locker room meeting in the days after with Chris Jericho, who was also called "a liar and a stooge" in the Punk IG post. Bryan Danielson also led the meeting, but wasn't mentioned, and we haven't heard of any heat between Danielson and Punk. Jericho and Punk shouted at each other after the Brawl Out fight took place, with Jericho calling Punk "a cancer," and Punk shouting back at Jericho. Those in AEW believe that if things came down to a "Moxley or Punk" situation, that AEW would pick Moxley in that decision. Punk is very aware of the heat on him, and the possibility of talent walking out should he return, but we haven't heard his feelings on it. Some of the heat has certainly died down since All Out 2022, but there's plenty that still remains.

AEW and CM Punk have had some contact. In fact, some close to Punk claim that he and Tony Khan have "spoken or had a couple of meetings," though we aren't sure what, if anything came of them. We do know there was a planned meeting for mid-February that was delayed, supposedly due to Jerry Jarrett's funeral. At one point those close to Punk believed that he wanted out of his contract without a non- compete attached, however in recent weeks they believed that Punk was open to returning to AEW, and even wanted to. In an important note, at least one person claimed that Punk was willing to apologize for the scrum portion of the All Out evening. There was a lot of context absent from that claim - specifically to whom, or whether it'd be publicly or privately. Several people said that Punk has expressed some form of regret for aspect of that night in general. Sources said that Punk was originally considering the potential of legal action, but haven't heard anything about that being broached in months. In fact, those that we spoke with felt like there had been "productive progression" in the opposite direction. However, sources within AEW that we spoke to lost confidence that Punk would be returning after the March 23 post. Punk does remain under contract with AEW. We've inquired as to whether or not there was ever a suspension or pay docking involved, but traditionally AEW has paid out wrestlers while they're injured regardless.

As much as I like Punk, and would love to see him back, he ain’t worth walk outs and risking shit like that. Don’t upset multiple talents for one guy who can’t keep his foot out of his mouth.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I would say normally yes and this is what they should do but Alvarez, Meltzer and even SRS are not the type I'd expect to do this lol all 3 can be defensive about their own reporting pretty hard

especially agree with this. It's a fair point and yeah it's just how I would personally do things. I don't think Alvarez is lying here unless he is trying to bait Punk into revealing his own source lmfao

 

[Comrade Khan]

As much as I like Punk, and would love to see him back, he ain’t worth walk outs and risking shit like that. Don’t upset multiple talents for one guy who can’t keep his foot out of his mouth.

yeah I am back to being on this boat, sadly. I thought they could be adults about this but this dude is pissing off pretty much all the original main eventers that made this company successful in the first place for him to reap the rewards upon his return. it's too much