Adventure Time vs. Happy Tree Friends Mafia

[Alco]

I would argue I die as scum in pretty much every scum game I play though?

Yea but never when Town wants it

Also last time you just gave up

 

[Chris]

If we work under the hypothetical that Poyser is scum and Lethal is now scum too, do we assume there were 3 mafia before and so are 4 now?

Or do we think there were 2 and are now 3?

Both feel kinda unbalanced as starting with 2 would be shit but having 4 now would be shit too.

This is another reason, beyond the cultist existing and occams razor, that I don't think Poyser/Lethal are scum.

But am I right in saying you're predicting scum is Poyser/Lethal/Alco with me as the fourth if there is one, or as an alternative to Alco if he's town?

This is really the only thing giving me pause on Poyser tbh bc reading back through all his shit with Odo and now Evans (granted some were heavy skims cba) but this role and the implications with it just dont' make sense being scum lmao but I don't want to get burned by role spec either. Evans isn't making a lick of sense rn to me either tbf, they're just going around in circles like he and Odo did

 

[Lethal]

I can assure you that I am not scum. I retained everything from Rugrat's role.

 

[Poyser]

I've given plenty of nuance all game cmon. I've been accused of "randomly" changing my mind when in fact that's exactly what the nuance is. I'm trying to find all the possible angles

Yeah but everything you've just posted there is so black and white. Like the flay thing is just "flay did this, looks bad" there's no moment to stop and think about the fact that he's a wildcard as town, or what the endgame would be as scum or why he would even do it as scum lol

It's not even that I disagree really that flay is a top suspect, I just don't like the fact that you're looking at it in such a 2 dimensional fashion. Kinda the same with me and how odo flipping town and wants me dead makes it a good idea considering the extenuating circumstances of me being a proven reviver with a cult already in the game and a vengeful jester to boot

 

[Ace]

I can assure you that I am not scum. I retained everything from Rugrat's role.

But iirc you don't have Poyser as c'd town?

Why is that?

 

[Chris]

"Would Flay fake info again this soon" is probably the exact same convo he wants rn whether he's town or scum btw Odo flipping town looks absolutely terrible for him though but I mean surely he would have known that? But he also might not have given a fuck

 

[Alco]

Oh BY THE WAY

we still haven't solved Tweet's death either. He clearly didn't target Odo, that's for sure.

Which leaves Chris, myself and possibly Flay (due to him giving him the flying saucer)
I know I wasn't targeted, so Chris and Flay come into play again.

 

[Evans]

If we work under the hypothetical that Poyser is scum and Lethal is now scum too, do we assume there were 3 mafia before and so are 4 now?

Or do we think there were 2 and are now 3?

Both feel kinda unbalanced as starting with 2 would be shit but having 4 now would be shit too.

This is another reason, beyond the cultist existing and occams razor, that I don't think Poyser/Lethal are scum.

But am I right in saying you're predicting scum is Poyser/Lethal/Alco with me as the fourth if there is one, or as an alternative to Alco if he's town?

If I had to spec off the cult & indie flip a 2 man team that can recruit would make sense.

I think it's worth noting that Odo acknowledged a drastic change in Rugrats play as well since his revival. I don't think he'd point it out if it didn't think it was worth mentioning when he knew he was on his way out.

 

[Lethal]

Anyway if there is a vig this game you should probably just shoot me at this point lol. I'll leave my reads now in case i do die

1) Flay / Chloe B
2) Blaine II (formerly T'Challa)
4) Lethal II (formerly Rugrat)
5) Phenom
7) Chris
9) Kajuh
12) Chevy
13) Ace
14) T-Pein
15) Alco

1) Chloe B - kill blocker
2) Blaine II (fka. T'Challa) - vanilla
3) Poyser - Reviver
4) Lethal II (fka. Rugrat) - cop
5) Phenom - Double Voter
7) Chris - ?
9) Kajuh - ?
12) Chevy - ?
13) Ace - Claims Unknown Town Power Role
14) T-Pein - Has put town leader as his role. The fuck?
15) Alco - ?

Ok so we are kinda similar in our thoughts.

@Poyser what's your take on Flay?

 

[Lethal]

But iirc you don't have Poyser as c'd town?

Why is that?

He's solid blue

 

[Poyser]

"Would Flay fake info again this soon" is probably the exact same convo he wants rn whether he's town or scum btw Odo flipping town looks absolutely terrible for him though but I mean surely he would have known that? But he also might not have given a fuck

The reason I have pause on flay is because he doesnt give a fuck as town, but he does tend to give a fuck as scum, that's where his "if he's playing the game properly then he's scum" meta comes from lol

That said, I can also see him legitimately thinking its a good idea as scum, because it gets odo lynched and is then highly likely to get my lynched right after so he would probably consider that a job well done

 

[Ace]

Oh BY THE WAY

we still haven't solved Tweet's death either. He clearly didn't target Odo, that's for sure.

Which leaves Chris, myself and possibly Flay (due to him giving him the flying saucer)
I know I wasn't targeted, so Chris and Flay come into play again.

Technically we don't know if it was a vig as was discussed previously but realistically I see this as another red flag on Flay.
Its also why I'm loathe to trust Chris.

But yeah, as I say, Flay 100% needs to be a key point of discussion tomorrow.

 

[Ace]

He's solid blue

Cool maybe I'm getting confuse with someone else then.

 

[Poyser]

If I had to spec off the cult & indie flip a 2 man team that can recruit would make sense.

I think it's worth noting that Odo acknowledged a drastic change in Rugrats play as well since his revival. I don't think he'd point it out if it didn't think it was worth mentioning when he knew he was on his way out.

Yeah but to counter this "drastic change in his play"

Do you think as scum that has been forcefully repped out, he would then continue posting with the risk of getting modkilled and fucking up the scum team if so? Like it would be tantamount to throwing/ruining the game

 

[Chris]

Oh BY THE WAY

we still haven't solved Tweet's death either. He clearly didn't target Odo, that's for sure.

Which leaves Chris, myself and possibly Flay (due to him giving him the flying saucer)
I know I wasn't targeted, so Chris and Flay come into play again.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he said N0M was confirmed after the character counter thing too but I also don't think N0M is scum. I dont' think I rate the Flay theory at all bc I mean it's a risk but even if you're sure of the read, why would you want Flay in your QT to be your successor if you die?

And I'm in the same boat as you, I know I wasn't targeted, so really that leaves only you for me. Is it looking unlikely it wasn't a SK/vig? It's been 2 kills N1 and the 0 N2 right? That would point towards Tweet dying bc of his role more I'll agree.