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I could see Vick and MAYBE Rivers being in the conversation though. if Manning didn't start trowing to the other team, he'd be in the conversation also.
 

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I think if Vick did not get injured and miss some games then yes, maybe if Rivers was on a winning team, no doubt abouy Manning because he is GOD!
 

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Colts would be like 1-12 if he wasn't on the team, so he'll still most likly be in the conversation.

Rivers would be in the conversation but i'm not beleiving in the Chargers making the playoffs for some reason. I know they've been down this raod before, but that was when the rest of their division sucked, it's different when only one team in their division stinks and the rest are vastly improved.

What was the Eagles record under Kolb during the games Vick missed? i could see that hurting Vick, since i don't beleive you're that valuable if your team does well under a different player in your absence.
 

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Vick could be the MVP but I somewhat expect him to suffer from what I thought Cam Newton would have done to him and not have people vote for him. MVP will be Brady but Vick will be in the running.
 

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I think it will happen more for Vick then it would for Newton. I beleive the investagation is still going on,but the NCAA said cam had no involvement, so that's good enough for me, and likely most oters.

Vick on the other hand, was convitced of a really bad crime. So i think some people who think he didn't think he got enough punishment will deal out their own punishment. I'm not a fan of the guy for the stuff he did, but i think punishing him for it by not voting him for mvp, after everybody has come out and said he's changed, is weak.
 
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I've felt so depressed since I read about brute earlier today. Poor guy. :(
 

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Yeah, he was cool guy. Gave me links to music and such.
 
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It's gotta suck hard for friends of his...I had a friend who passed away young and now friends within the circle can't even look at each other, it's too painful. Death always sucks tho I guess, but it's worse when it's someone who was just starting their life, what a waste. :(
 

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I lost a friend last year and if anything it brought us closer together.
 
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I lost a friend last year and if anything it brought us closer together.

Well then I hope that's the case for them and not like it turned out for me, which sucked.
 

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:( This in fact does suck damn he had some pretty good post and even funny ones