John Cena vs. Bret Hart: Who is better?

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CenaMark54

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I would have to say Cena;

1. He has more chairsma.
2. He is better on the mic.
3. He is a good role model for kids and his fellow wrestlers.
4. He doesn't bitch about getting screwed over.
5. His matches are more entertaining.
6. He doesn't wear pink.
7. He is a bigger draw.
8. He doesn't use the five moves of doom nearly as much as Hart.

There are my reasons Cena is better overall than Bret Hart. Please post your thoughts.
 

PeepShow

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I would have to say Cena;

1. He has more chairsma.
2. He is better on the mic.
3. He is a good role model for kids and his fellow wrestlers.
4. He doesn't bitch about getting screwed over.
5. His matches are more entertaining.
6. He doesn't wear pink.
7. He is a bigger draw.
8. He doesn't use the five moves of doom nearly as much as Hart.

There are my reasons Cena is better overall than Bret Hart. Please post your thoughts.

When has Cena been screwed over? :g:

More entertaining? Well, I cant change you opinion there, b/c well, its your opinion
 

CenaMark54

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When has Cena been screwed over? :g:

More entertaining? Well, I cant change you opinion there, b/c well, its your opinion

When Edge cashed in his Money in the Bank. Cena didn't throw a fit and leave the company.
 

PeepShow

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^That was part of a storyline. The other, we dont really know for sure.
 

Montana

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Its tough to say, its wrestling vs entertainment. Im about 50/50 on it. Bret Hart was one of my favs growing up, so he did appeal to the kids.

I also disagree with a few other you mentioned.

- Good Role Model....I'd say Bret Hart was the better Role Model...not like it matters.

- Doesnt bitch? ....Bret hart was the hardest working guy in the company for the past 10 years. He never had any problems before that. Even when hogan stole the spotlight at wm9 he didnt say a word.

- Matches more entertaining? how do you figure?? Cena may have had better opponents, but Bret has had 2 of the wwe's 4 5 star matches in history. Not to mention bret vs bulldog at SS 92 which i consider one of the greatest matches of all time.

Do you remember matches like:

Bret vs Perfect
Bret vs Flair
Bret vs HBK like 3x
Bret vs Owen
Bret vs Taker
Bret vs Roddy Piper
Bret vs Stone Cold

Not to mention his Hart Foundation days.

- doesnt wear pink? His name was "Hart" you know. It goes together. So what?

- 5 moves? They both do it the same

All in all one is a much better wrestler, the other is much more entertaining/more charisma.

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John Cena easily. You could make a case that Bret Heart was the better wrestler, but the only difference was that he knew more moves, how boring!

Cena is able to captivate the masses week in and week out, for better or worse people tune in and buy the PPV's to see Da Champ! Something that people did NOT do when Heart was the champion. I will say that Heart was a good role model for kids with the giving of the glasses and so, but John has the bigger fanbase among kids (and who can blame them) and is therefore a better role model.

Cenamark pretty much covered it all so I shall leave with this. John Cena > Bret "The hitman" Heart who should be in JAIL for advocating assassinations.
 

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oh please you cant put all the blame on Hart, Hell the WWE was in a hell of a lot worse slump then they are now...

also bret hart not a role model? yeah thats why when he took his glasses off and gave them to some kid they pretty much wet themselves, or how in Canada he is a fucking legend...

Hart> Cena
 

PeepShow

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Wow, me and Phil agreeing on something? Mark your calenders people. :)

But ya, half of those points arent even true, not to mention wrestling ability, which is why we should all be watching anyway.
 

CenaMark54

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I will give Hart credit. He did put Austin over.

That will end up being his most significant contribution.
 

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or how in Canada he is a fucking legend...

Big Deal! Cena is the bigger star in the US, and in case you didn't know, the US takes up about 75% of the World's population while Canada takes about 3%. Therefore, US > Canada and Cena > Heart.

But ya, half of those points arent even true, not to mention wrestling ability, which is why we should all be watching anyway.

That might be true, but the fact is that its all about the MONEY and Cena makes a ton of money, Heart didn't make so much.

And could someone tell me where's Mr Kenny? Did he get suspended for asteroid use or is he hurt?
 

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your argument is shit...

everyone and their mother knows that hart is better than cena PERIOD. thats it...

for instance you say that....you know what you cena fans like proof so here it is

hart
# Stampede International Tag Team titles w/Keith Hart defeating Raul Castillo & Fidel Castillo (November 12, 1978);
# (Calgary) Commonwealth Mid-Heavyweight title defeating Norman Frederich Charles III (November 1978);
# Stampede International Tag Team titles w/Keith Hart defeating Dynamite Kid & Sekigawa (January 26, 1979);
# (Calgary) Commonwealth Mid-Heavyweight title defeating Dynamite Kid (June 1, 1979);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Leo Burke (1980);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Leo Burke (May 1980);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Duke Myers (1980);
# Stampede International Tag Team titles w/Keith Hart defeating Dynamite Kid & Loch Ness Monster (1980);
# Stampede International Tag Team titles w/Keith Hart defeating Dynamite Kid & Kasavudu (June 3, 1980);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Leo Burke (June 26, 1982);
# Stampede International Tag Team titles w/Leo Burke defeating Dynamite Kid & Duke Myres (June 29, 1982);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Bad News Allen (October 17, 1982);
# Stampede North American Heavyweight title defeating Leo Burke (May 3, 1983);
# WWF Tag Team titles w/Jim Neidhart defeating the British Bulldogs (January 26, 1987);
# WWF Tag Team titles w/Jim Neidhart defeating Demolition -Smash & Crush- (August 27, 1990 - Summerslam);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Mr. Perfect (August 26, 1991 - Summerslam);
# WWF King of the Ring (September 7, 1991);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Roddy Piper (April 5, 1992 = Wrestlemania 8);
# WWF Heavyweight title defeating Ric Flair (October 12, 1992);
# WWF King of the Ring (June 13, 1993);
# WWF Royal Rumble Co-winner w/Lex Luger (January 22, 1994);
# WWF Heavyweight title defeating Yokozuna (March 20, 1994 - Wrestlemania 10);
# WWF Heavyweight title defeating Diesel (November 19, 1995 - Survivor Series);
# WWF Heavyweight title defeating Steve Austin & Undertaker & Vader (February 16, 1997 - In Your House);
# WWF Heavyweight title defeating The Undertaker (August 3, 1997 - Summerslam);
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Diamond Dallas Page to win vacant title (July 20, 1998);
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Lex Luger (September 13, 1998);
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Diamond Dallas Page (November 30, 1998);
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Bill Goldberg (October 25, 1999);
# WCW World Tag Team titles w/Bill Goldberg defeating Ron & Don Harris (December 9, 1999);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating Chris Benoit in a Tournament (November 21, 1999);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating Bill Goldberg (December 20, 1999);
# WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment) Hall of Fame Inductee (2006);
# Obsessedwithwrestling.com Hall of Fame Inductee (2007);

cena

# UPW Heavyweight title;
# OVW Heavyweight title;
# OVW Southern Tag Team titles w/Rico Constantino;
# WWE United States title defeating The Big Show (March 14, 2004 - Wrestlemania XX);
# WWE United States title defeating Booker T -Best of 5 Series- (October 3, 2004 - No Mercy);
# WWE United States title defeating Carlito Cool (November 19, 2004 - Smackdown!);
# WWE Heavyweight title defeating John Bradshaw Layfield (April 3, 2005 - Wrestlemania 21);
# WWE Heavyweight title defeating Edge w/Lita (January 29, 2006 - Royal Rumble);
# WWE Heavyweight title defeating Edge w/Lita (September 17, 2006 - Unforgiven);
# (WWE) World Tag Team titles w/Shawn Michaels defeating Edge & Randy Orton (January 29, 2007 - RAW);

case fucking closed