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[Jacob Fox]

Rate Fastlane 2017 in our poll and leave some comments to let us know what you thought about the show!

Spoiler: Fastlane 2017 Results

Pre-Show Match Rich Swan and Akira Tazawa vs Brian Kendrick and Noam Dar

Rich Swan and Akira Tazawa won by pinfall

Sami Zayn vs Samoa Joe

Samoa Joe defeated Sami Zayn by pinfall

WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: Champions Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson vs Enzo and Cass

Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson retained the tag title by pin fall

Sasha Banks vs Nia Jax

Sasha Banks defeated Nia Jax by pin fall.

Jinder Mahal vs Cesaro

At the beginning of the match, Rusev and Mahal got into a fight which is why the match was Mahal. After the match, which Cesaro won, Rusev beat up Mahal. Then Big Show came out.

Big Show vs Rusev

Big Show defeated Rusev by pin fall

WWE Cruiserweight Championship Match: Champion Neville vs Jack Gallagher

Neville retained the Cruiserweight Champion by pin fall.

Braun Strowman vs Roman Reings

Roman pinned Strowman following a spear.

Raw Women's Championship: Champion Bayley vs Charlotte Flair

Bayley pinned Charlotte Flair, handing her a very first PPV defeat. Sasha Banks was involved in the match, attacking Charlotte at one point and pointing things out to the referee.

WWE Universal Championship: Champion Kevins Owens vs Goldberg

Goldberg won the Universal Championship in 21 seconds by pinfall. KO was distracted by Chris Jericho when Goldberg hit a spear.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

I barely even know what happened, that +4 is for Reigns and Strowman, I just wanted to see that, and it worked, even Reigns winning which is the right call. I can't give any other points out for the ending, that is like -6 right there, what makes WWE think using part timers for the UV belt if good logic?

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

3/10 it was pretty bad lol

 

[Solid Snake]

0/10

Slapped Kevin and Jericho in the faces for all the work they did.
Slapped Charlotte in the face for the sake of Sasha and BAYLEY!?
No Undertaker... Roman wins clean??

In 21 seconds... They managed to ruin Wrestlemania for me.

 

[Jacob Fox]

 

[Black Wizard]

0/10

Every time I try to go back and give WWE a chance again, they remind me of why I stopped watching in the first place.

 

[Just Kevin]

Shit.. pure shit. 0/10

The whole thing was completely disorganized and looked like it was thrown together 30 minutes before airtime..

 

[Solid Snake]

Shit.. pure shit. 0/10

The whole thing was completely disorganized and looked like it was thrown together 30 minutes before airtime..

That is the impression I got from it. Like why in the world would you do what they did WEEKS before the "biggest" event for the company? I feel like they just pissed on some of the wrestlers doing what they did. I have 0 interest in Wrestlemania now. The only thing that would have made me watch was if KO retained but NOPE! Couldn't even have that. Part timers ruin everything for the guys who work their butts off week in and out. It is BS.

 

[Rosie]

3/10

Cruiserweight match was great, Opener was solid....

Then came issues.

Braun vs Roman was boring until the end. It took someone getting sent through an announcer's table to wake me up and Braun going off the top was cool. But just eh....

The Tag match was nothing to write home about.

Two unannounced matches in a row. Both were alright but was just filler.

The Women's match was great until the ending...but then again, at least the repetitive booking is over...and replaced with new repetitive booking.

And the main event...oh the main event.

21 seconds. I counted it on a watch, from bell to bell, 21.85 seconds. Not just that, the ref rung the bell as Chris Jericho's music playing, which really is kind of bull that you think of it and instead of maybe giving a new star a shot in a big title match at Wrestlemania, we have someone who is well past his prime, and a part-timer. If you want to build the Universal title, having a man in his 50's pin your champ in a short fashion who can be the top heel in your company then have Brock Lesnar win the belt from him and not appear for almost 6 months as Champ, which might I remind you that the belt is meant to be the key part of your 3-hour flagship show, that is not how you do it!

I think the big issue with WWE is that they're not giving the new guys that they have a chance, or are putting guys in the spotlight the fans are vocal against as a face. Kevin Owens, great wrestler, and trash talker. Seth Rollins, if he stays healthy, great in either role. Dean Ambrose, at one time nobody in WWE got louder pops than him. AJ Styles, had a great WWE title run and I can say more. Even if you want an established name with them in that spot it's fine, but you can't rely on Goldberg as Champ or even Brock. Goldberg is 50 and won't be around after Wrestlemania, Brock Lesnar has a limited number of dates per a year. Kevin Owens, Seth Rollins, Cesaro, Sheamus, hell, Rusev, heck, even Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman, all these guys are on the road 24/7 and are the guys always at WWE Live Events, on each Raw and Smackdown. A lot of them have dreamed of being a WWE Superstar their entire lives and worked hard for that sniff at a major match at Wrestlemania. I get not all of them can be main eventers, and sometimes people who are bigger stars get the big spots, but not even one of the people in the match? Could for once, you let people who have earned title opportunities have them and let Goldberg and Brock Lesnar have their match not for the title, but still featured? If you don't give the new generation a chance, sure, you may make money for those big four PPVs when these guys do show up, and part-timers can be good as they feel special when they do appear, but if you rely on them too much things can hurt in the long run. The people who are on your payroll who do more appearances, if you give them the ball and let them run with it, you'll get more bang for your buck, the fans will be invested in these guys and will tune in more often.

Right now for watching Wrestlemania, I am 50/50 on it. I may watch it for the sake of it being Wrestlemania, but if you have Brock Lesnar and Goldberg as the guys in your main event, then that doesn't appeal to me.

:haunter:

Only major highlight of the night, my avatar...

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

WWE champions heading into the past 5 Wrestlemanias: 2017 - Goldberg 2016 - Triple H 2015 - Brock Lesnar 2014 - Randy Orton 2013 - The Rock

 

[WholeFN'Moe]

ZERO

...complete dogshit

Say the Cruiserweight match wasn't bad all you want.... it might not have been but it wasn't a ppv caliber title match

0/10.... it's supposed to be the top wrestling company in the world, they don't deserve a point or any leniency

 

[Doxo]

Let's see... Nia lost, Rusev lost, Strowman lost, Charlotte lost, and Owens lost... Way to neuter (and spay) all of your heels in one night. Sure, Joe and Club won, but everyone's knew Joe would win and Club beat Enzo and Cass of all people, they suck. Yeah, we all knew Owens would lose too, but... 21 seconds?!

 

[Grievous 3D]

So...I just...I just don't know anymore...

~ Tozawa & Swann won...fine...I honestly didn't really care...
~ Samoa Joe won...but no sign of Balor...Okay...
~ Gallows & Anderson defeated the Enzo & Cass...I didn't care...
~ I'm happy Sasha had a win...she needed it...although I was hoping she'd be more...violent...
~ Cesaro vs. Jinder Mahal...Okay...at least Cesaro won...
~ Big Show vs. Rusev...and the Big Show won...WTF?! Did Rusev do something wrong?
~ Neville retained...Good...I want a 500+ day reign for Neville...
~ I don't care about Paul Heyman or the New Day...
~ And Strowman gets "fed" to Reigns with no sign of the Undertaker...Wonderful...
~ KO gets (CM) Punk'd so Goldberg can have the shiny red belt...I hate part timers...
And finally...Bayley breaks the streak and retains...

So lets take a step back and really look at this...
1). WWE creative ruins Sasha Banks by giving her 3 short title reigns and making her
look like a loser on pay per views.
2). They book it so the feud just "stops" because...reasons...
3). Sasha then gets booked in matches against Nia Jax and gets squashed and injured...
4). Bayley meanwhile gets the top contender spot after basically doing fuck all...
5). Bayley defeats Charlotte with outside interference on RAW for the belt and by now
Charlotte looks as weak on RAW as Sasha does on Pay Per View...
6). Then Bayley breaks the steak...again with outside interference but this time its the
2 faces "cheating" to beat a heel.

Now...the WWE creative is just throwing "moments" away for no reason. First Bayley
wins the title on RAW...then breaks the streak at Fastlane...

Why not have Bayley win the title for the first time and break the streak by pinning
Charlotte clean at Wrestlemania? Why did they take the 2 biggest factors for the
women's title match at Wrestlemania and waste them?

I'm not upset about Charlotte's streak being broken...and frankly Charlotte has been
defeated too many times on RAW for it to even matter to me anymore...I just don't
understand why these moments were discarded instead of being saved for the
biggest show of the year.

What's left for Wrestlemania? Bayley has already won the championship...Charlotte
has already lost on Pay Per View...and Sasha turning heel at Wrestlemania won't
mean anything in a Fatal Four Way because its every woman for themselves.

I just...I just don't understand it...

The only way this can work for me is if Sasha turns at Wrestlemania during the match
and violently attacks Bayley with a weapon...like she turns and goes full heel while doing
it winning after repeated weapon shots or something...but even that is a pretty weak idea.

But knowing WWE...Sasha won't turn at all and the RAW Women's division (4 women are
not a division!) will just keep looping around with the same pathetic booking with no one
ending up looking dominant or competent.

I am not upset Charlotte lost again and her streak is broken...I'm upset that 2 possibly epic
moments were wasted instead of being saved for Wrestlemania.

Well...on the plus side...hopefully Charlotte can start winning on RAW now...I'd like that...

 

[Snowman1]

So...I just...I just don't know anymore...

~ Tozawa & Swann won...fine...I honestly didn't really care...
~ Samoa Joe won...but no sign of Balor...Okay...
~ Gallows & Anderson defeated the Enzo & Cass...I didn't care...
~ I'm happy Sasha had a win...she needed it...although I was hoping she'd be more...violent...
~ Cesaro vs. Jinder Mahal...Okay...at least Cesaro won...
~ Big Show vs. Rusev...and the Big Show won...WTF?! Did Rusev do something wrong?
~ Neville retained...Good...I want a 500+ day reign for Neville...
~ I don't care about Paul Heyman or the New Day...
~ And Strowman gets "fed" to Reigns with no sign of the Undertaker...Wonderful...
~ KO gets (CM) Punk'd so Goldberg can have the shiny red belt...I hate part timers...
And finally...Bayley breaks the streak and retains...

So lets take a step back and really look at this...
1). WWE creative ruins Sasha Banks by giving her 3 short title reigns and making her
look like a loser on pay per views.
2). They book it so the feud just "stops" because...reasons...
3). Sasha then gets booked in matches against Nia Jax and gets squashed and injured...
4). Bayley meanwhile gets the top contender spot after basically doing fuck all...
5). Bayley defeats Charlotte with outside interference on RAW for the belt and by now
Charlotte looks as weak on RAW as Sasha does on Pay Per View...
6). Then Bayley breaks the steak...again with outside interference but this time its the
2 faces "cheating" to beat a heel.

Now...the WWE creative is just throwing "moments" away for no reason. First Bayley
wins the title on RAW...then breaks the streak at Fastlane...

Why not have Bayley win the title for the first time and break the streak by pinning
Charlotte clean at Wrestlemania? Why did they take the 2 biggest factors for the
women's title match at Wrestlemania and waste them?

I'm not upset about Charlotte's streak being broken...and frankly Charlotte has been
defeated too many times on RAW for it to even matter to me anymore...I just don't
understand why these moments were discarded instead of being saved for the
biggest show of the year.

What's left for Wrestlemania? Bayley has already won the championship...Charlotte
has already lost on Pay Per View...and Sasha turning heel at Wrestlemania won't
mean anything in a Fatal Four Way because its every woman for themselves.

I just...I just don't understand it...

The only way this can work for me is if Sasha turns at Wrestlemania during the match
and violently attacks Bayley with a weapon...like she turns and goes full heel while doing
it winning after repeated weapon shots or something...but even that is a pretty weak idea.

But knowing WWE...Sasha won't turn at all and the RAW Women's division (4 women are
not a division!) will just keep looping around with the same pathetic booking with no one
ending up looking dominant or competent.

I am not upset Charlotte lost again and her streak is broken...I'm upset that 2 possibly epic
moments were wasted instead of being saved for Wrestlemania.

Well...on the plus side...hopefully Charlotte can start winning on RAW now...I'd like that...

So lemme get this straight... So Sasha helped Charlotte end the streak... if you were going to do that, why bother having the Streak in the first place? Gave the idea earlier of "give Bayley a fluke win here" but at least let her actually win! Why bother having the Streak to begin with since she just lost on Raw anyway, she got nothing out of it?... Why bother having Sasha get crushed by Nia?... If her losses to Nia could just be undone by turning on Bayley - which would have worked on NXT because Bayley was the lovable huggable girl who nothing bad should ever happen to ever, while it'll work on Raw because Sasha is wet shit as a babyface - then why not just keep Nia looking semi-credible without her looking like a dumbass?

I don't understand it. Like I get the sense of "protecting everyone" - hell Smackdown's done it with most of the girls - but this just made your entire division of 5 girls (emma's still here, dammit! I... swear she's here somewhere!!!) look like channel changers after they came across as such big stars last year

 

[Chicken McDouble]

WWE ain't had one good Fastlane in 3 years since it began, I'll give this show a 4.

Positives
- Cruiserweight title match was really good.
- Braun vs Roman near the end was ok.
- Joe vs Zayn was a solid opener.
- Club vs Enzo and Cass was ok.
- Charlotte vs Bayley started good but ended bad.

Negatives
- The ending to Charlotte vs Bayley.
- Impromptu matches, Cesaro vs Jinder was actually not bad but Rusev vs Big Show was a stinker,
- Braun vs Roman mostly had me yawning.
- Nia lost, one more loss for Sasha would've been fine if she turned heel on that night.
- The Universal title match from start to finish, just crap at the start and crap at the end. Goldberg winning was a bad decision, and Jericho didn't help it at all. [HASHTAG]#RefScrewedKO[/HASHTAG].

Overall, pretty crap PPV.